Super Jet JSS coil upgrades

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HB
Howdy folks,

Looking for a coil refresh. Was thinking of going with the JSS mod of some of my existing coils, but then ran across a thread here that many were bashing them as potentially unreliable. This was the first I had heard of that since many seem to put great stock in them.

My issue is that I have many old superjets that I have picked up over the last few years and I'd like to get two of them set up to be super reliable with many new or refreshed parts. So I'd like to revisit the JSS coil debate for those willing to chime in.

Cheers,
DJ
 

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
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Rentz, GA
I'd go with the JSS coils. I have them in all my ski's without issue. Everyone I ride with has them as well and we are all 100 percent salt water.

There were some issues with the JSS coils reported a couple years ago that keep getting brought up so it may seem like a bigger problem than it really is. It has always been my opinion that there was an issue with some of the material that John used for a particular batch. He's not the kind of guy to let something like that go on without making a correction.

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Location
denmark
I did have some problems with mt JSS coil it was bad right out off the box, but Jetmaniac replaced it right away and it runnes strong now. Nuclear6 have some new ones for sale they look realy good too. I also hade a MSD DONT NOT BUY ONE it was bad from day one
 

jetkid

Paul Lambers
Location
Grand Rapids MI
I have had 3 jss coils go bad on me in the past year and a half... I will not use them again. Jetmaniac did replace them ever time but that is not the point.. I only use oem now.
 

Quinc

Buy a Superjet
Location
California
I just got my SJ ignition coli back from JSS. After talking to him on the phone he said that they test it after they rebuild/add cables to it to make sure it works. He also said out of thousands of coils he has only seen one that was bad. He also said that the wires will need to be replaced again depending on how much your engine shakes (bad mounts) and how much you ride.
 

jetkid

Paul Lambers
Location
Grand Rapids MI
wow really "out of thousands of coils he has only seen one that was bad"??? I personally have had 3 bad ones!!! Its posts like yours that give this site a bad name and why people dont come one here any more.
 

Midlake Crisis

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Location
Bakersfield, CA
I have had 3 jss coils go bad on me in the past year and a half... I will not use them again. Jetmaniac did replace them ever time but that is not the point.. I only use oem now.

What were the symptoms and how did you verify it was the coils that were bad? ( I have had a frustrating ongoing issue and am wondering if the coil might be the cause)
 

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
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Rentz, GA
How is it that we can all have such a polarizing experience with JSS components? I have put one in every Yamaha i have ever owned and I have never had one fail yet.

For those of you claiming they got bad JSS coils, can you also post what was wrong with them or the symptoms experienced? When you had your experience could be relevant as well if there was indeed a bad batch made during a certain period.
 
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Quinc

Buy a Superjet
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California
wow really "out of thousands of coils he has only seen one that was bad"??? I personally have had 3 bad ones!!! Its posts like yours that give this site a bad name and why people dont come one here any more.

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How did you determine that they where bad?
 

jetkid

Paul Lambers
Location
Grand Rapids MI
"How did you determine that they where bad?" oh that was the hard part. I just replace it with an new oem and my ski worked again.. And no not mad, its not that big of a deal. Like I said Jetmaniac took care of the problem too!!!
 

Quinc

Buy a Superjet
Location
California
"How did you determine that they where bad?" oh that was the hard part. I just replace it with an new oem and my ski worked again.. And no not mad, its not that big of a deal. Like I said Jetmaniac took care of the problem too!!!

So how do you know it wasn't the wires that where bad and the ignition coil was fine? You know its posts like yours...
 
I did have a JSS coil go bad. It was about a year old. The actual coil itself failed though so that's really not JSS fault. They just put wires on them. I am running a oem coil with MSD boots now.
 

JetManiac

Stoked
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I'd go with the JSS coils. I have them in all my ski's without issue. Everyone I ride with has them as well and we are all 100 percent salt water.

There were some issues with the JSS coils reported a couple years ago that keep getting brought up so it may seem like a bigger problem than it really is. It has always been my opinion that there was an issue with some of the material that John used for a particular batch. He's not the kind of guy to let something like that go on without making a correction.

This has been my experience as well. I have had them on all of my personal skis for years and mostly saltwater usage without issue. JetManiac has sold hundreds of JSS coils as well with very few returned. Sometimes the returned coils were fine and issues were with other components. However, there were a few with faulty wires which were always replaced.


I just got my SJ ignition coli back from JSS. After talking to him on the phone he said that they test it after they rebuild/add cables to it to make sure it works. He also said out of thousands of coils he has only seen one that was bad. He also said that the wires will need to be replaced again depending on how much your engine shakes (bad mounts) and how much you ride.

It is important to remember that 'JSS coils' are OEM yami or kawi coils with new wires and boots. John at JSS was stating that the oem (mitsubishi) coil itself is super reliable and that they seldom fail.

The wires and terminals whether they are oem or JSS or other ALL fail with enough use. Vibration and corrosion and repeated taking caps on and off will eventually cause weaker or loss of spark.



Every jss coil I have ever used was bad. Never use another one
Breaking up everytime it hit saltwater. Put a oem coil in and ran perfect. I gave up after 2 coils. But seems everyone else that had them had the same problem.

I understand that the Wavejunkies had a bad batch of JSS coils years ago and you are speaking from your personal experience with them, but JSS is no longer using the same brand of wires which caused you all the problems.





JetManiac has always replaced newer JSS coils for our customers with issues from our inventory as a matter of good customer service ,and then sending them for replacement/evaluation to JSS. Usually they were repaired without question and there were very few needing service.

However, there were some problems near the end of last year with some coils that were newly purchased.

http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/120593-New-jss-coil-Whats-the-go-with-this!&highlight=Jss

After being emailed the above video, John at JSS told us that was why he didn't recommend shipping used coils internationally. Huh? As stated above, the coils themselves seldom fail and it is obviously not the coil but the wires that are failing in the video.

We also replaced a few new or nearly new at daytona, even one not purchased through us. After daytona, these coils were sent to JSS and we were told that they were all good and problems were due to 'salt deposits' under the caps and on wires and warranty was refused. Since this epic fail of JSS customer service, we have been reviewing and testing alternatives to JSS.
 
I have had 3 jss coils go bad on me in the past year and a half... I will not use them again. Jetmaniac did replace them ever time but that is not the point.. I only use oem now.
Coils themself dont go bad, OEM coils are way better than MSD and the OEMs never go bad. What goes bad is the junk wire they use. All JSS does is upgrade the wires and boots to MSD boots
So when you say you had 3 go bad in a year and a half, the only way that could happen is if you had a bad stator and it was baking each one.
 
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