Really?
I have run several total loss systems over the years, always with dual 500 GPH bilge pumps running, and the battery was good for at least four tanks.
Not buying the bilge pump argument :veryhappy:
Who makes a scupper that does NOT leak back into the ski......?
- Thread starter MANFISH66
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Really?
I have run several total loss systems over the years, always with dual 500 GPH bilge pumps running, and the battery was good for at least four tanks.
Not buying the bilge pump argument :veryhappy:
SXR-FOREVER
Finally Flippin
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- Lake Minnetonka, MN
I'll never run a ski WITHOUT a oneway/scupper. I love my xmetal and my dual bilges. I go underwater off stabs, subs, fountains, failed backies and rolls to keep my engine bay dry.
I've used the blowsion and homedepot which dont compare to the xmetal at all which I am using now...it leaks, but hardly at all.
I've used the blowsion and homedepot which dont compare to the xmetal at all which I am using now...it leaks, but hardly at all.
the WaTeRhAwK
fryin' up a/m electrics..
- Location
- okc
I'm not "arguing" with you, just saying. :veryhappy:
Big Kahuna
Administrator
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
Cannot believe I am doing this.
Travis, if you have a scupper and no bilge pumps, you are asking for trouble. I have dual 500's and dual scuppers. If I did not have the bilges then my ski would be on the bottom in about 2-5 minutes. FACT. If I pulled it to the bank, I would have to pull the tail out of the water completely every time. Stopping to float, would never happen. If you loose the ski, by the time you get to it you will have water in the hull, what happens if the ski will not fire up? Guess what, your ski may very well be on the bottom or bobbing up and down for a long time.
When a SJ is upside down, this happens when toss a ski in the surf, the air will literally blow out the scupper very fast, guess what happens next. The ski sinks, this is really bad in big surf.
Scuppers have nothing to do with battery usage to me, they are to quickly drain the engine compartment after a trick so you can do another. It used to be a big deal and still is if you compete or perform in shows where you're doing subs/etc but for a lot of riders nowadays they are more trouble than they're worth.
- Location
- Raleigh NC\Lake Jordan
Im not a fan of scuppers, but I do think the xft recessed style is one of the best designed. Because its recessed, it holds water in the recess which holds the scupper shut. I run versiplugs, but they dont drain water that fast.
Big Kahuna
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I am very tempeded to plug one of mine now. I could use the kind you pump up with air. The round compression ones will not work, when Wammer installed these he actually heated up the tubes to contour to the bottom of the hull. I tell you, Paying wammer to do something like this would be worth it. He does the work right. I will testify to it based off my hull being 7 years old when I checked the foam. DRY
the WaTeRhAwK
fryin' up a/m electrics..
- Location
- okc
that's why you want to run 2 or three valves in-line, and not just one. you could install the center one upside down, to where when the ski is upside down it will function normally. :dunno:
steve-uk
Manners cost nothing
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- Barrie - ontario
really? mine leaks like a mo fo!
air time products does a great one way valve/scupper assembly, junkyardj had one on his ski and it never leaked
5810
WHERE-THE-SEAT-AT
- Location
- Knoxville TN
Wamiltons or blowsion one way. No leaking
- Location
- SAN JOSE, CA.
Thanx for all the great replys! I am already running dual 500's.... For now I think I will just stick with those. From what I am hearing they are more trouble than they are worth.....I just wish I could find a switch that wasn't a pile of $hit !!!
steve-uk
Manners cost nothing
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- Barrie - ontario
i used to run the pole mounted switch... lasted maybe a season and a half, without riding in salt, have been using a rotary switch for last two years or so with no problems
http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/bilge_pumps___brackets.htm
http://www.atlanticjetsports.com/bilge_pumps___brackets.htm
It is expensive, but you can mount it anywhere and is milspec rated for continuous water immersion. Not to be confused with the Hot Products, Blowsion, etc. one that looks similiar but totally different design.
McMaster-Carr PN: 6944K12
http://www.mcmaster.com/#momentary-pendant-switches/=7s1dom
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lakeboy183
get out and ride
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- rice lake,north dakota
how long can a ski sit upside down befor it sinks with dual scuppers
the WaTeRhAwK
fryin' up a/m electrics..
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- okc
not very long at all. when the ski is upside down, the valve flapper inside the one-way valve falls open and lets water in. that's why I suggested two or three valves in-line, with one of them positioned upside down to the other one or two. that way it will function normally at keeping water out while the other one or two are dropped open, until the ski is righted.
No, it does not. That is not the issue.
With the boat upside down, air pressure inside the ski will open the valve/scupper and escape, thus allowing ever more water into the hull.
It doesn't let water in - it lets air out.
(Perhaps with a worn out scupper, gravity is a contributing factor)
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