low end punch

[waxhead]

:bs2:
wrong, combustion happens in the cylinder, that forces the piston down, and the decompressing gases are released into the pipe chamber where they do most of their expansion, (hence the term "expansion chamber" )


and you're saying that I need to do an in depth study of this!?!?! you've got to be kidding man, seriously.

A two stroke exhaust system is a pressure wave device and works on sound waves
It has nothing to do with expanding gases
Its about the sound wave causing a negative pressure and drawing fuel air mixture out of the exhaust
this is what we call scavenging

I know this is above your head
but maybe if you wanted to actually have a look at something other the clymer manual you have then you may learn something

the expansion chamber is a pressure wave device not a secondary device to allow for expansion of gas

Try reading a link like the one below
it may actually teach you something more then the clymer bible you hang so dearly to

http://www.maxxtraxxusa.com/Tuned_Pipes_3608.cfm

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

you're doing it again wax

we began discussing ONE single aspect of the system, you made a mistake, I called you on it, so then you arguementatively attempt bringing up a TOTALLY different aspect of it that pertains to absolutely NO aspect of what we had originally been discussing, as to divert attention away from YOUR mistake with terms and try to make it look like I don't understand the aspects of a totally different subject alltogether. very classicly waxhead-ish.

you've got to be a complete moron if you think I dont understand what makes one tick after all the infromation I've posted when confronted with questions about this stuff.
I knew what backpressure does and about the scavenging effect of two strokes before you ever even thought of touching a ski, genius.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

Its about the sound wave causing a negative pressure and drawing fuel air mixture out of the exhaust

yeah, that wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with the reason it's called an extractor either, huh genius.

 

[waxhead]

Please show for my benefit and the benefit of your argument where i have changed it
As i only see you being a complete knob here
So can you post where it was i changed my argument
and while you are doing this can you also post the link to your video that proves your extractor theory correct

If you can not do then then just concede you are a moran and get on with your councling

 

[waxhead]

yeah, that wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with the reason it's called an extractor either, huh genius.

Its called an expansion chamber
keep with the program
the only ever calling it an extractor is you and your clymer bible
tell me do you walk around the street with it under your arm quoting from it

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

yeah. imagine that...

.... there you go again wax, you totally misunderstand whats being said and why, for which I'm SOOO not surpised at all. I already told you a million times that it's NOT called an extractor just because of the siphoning effect of the stinger fitting, the only thing that makes that stinger fitting relevant to the thing being called an extractor is the simple fact that by it pulling the extra water off of the headpipe and not letting it all flow into the chamber with the bypass, it lets the chamber help the engine produce more power, if all the cooling water was dropped into the chamber (like the old mod pipes) the expansion area of the pipe would be less, it would be cooled more so the reflex waves that make backpressure would be slower, thereby hampering the amount of HP the engine is allowed to make with the pipe.

now, do I need to disect it further with numbered sections? or is the above written/typed format understandable the way it is?

if you recall, wax, the entire discussion was based around if the thing was EVER called an extractor in the first place.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

a complete knob....LOL :biggrin:

 

[waxhead]

You just proved nothing
But then again thats kinda normal for you

However what if you believe is fine if it makes you feel good

I will just join the rest of the ranks that tried to help you before and now just sit and laugh at you

 

[keefer]

Wax, just remember this old saying. " Never wrestle with a pig, you both get filthy and muddy, and the pig likes it" :clown: This guy really believes his own BS. I could throw a pig in this pen, but I would not insult their intelligence. :biggrin:

 

[sflsurfrider]

Travis...you still assume an inductive coil works on DC battery voltage.

it does, as long as theres a self-priming extractor syphon slammed on the stinger with a whole WAD of :bs2: to baffle the expansion waves.:clown:




:haha:

 

[sflsurfrider]

Its called an expansion chamber
keep with the program
the only ever calling it an extractor is you and your clymer bible
tell me do you walk around the street with it under your arm quoting from it

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:


actually, he probably does. he does it here. it seems as though his entire being is based on a term that was misused in a clymer manual once.:loser:

 

[Big Kahuna]

You know, the novelty has worn off, this is boring now.......

 

[sflsurfrider]

You know, the novelty has worn off, this is boring now.......

youre right. and when youre right, youre right. and youre right!

i think wads new title needs to be rainman.

 

[keefer]

Yeah, but he seems to enjoy the abuse:biggrin: You know, the old whippin post:spank:

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

laugh all you want guys, it doesn't change the laws of physics.

lol

one of you sounds off, then the other concurrs, so then everyone joins in with the same false perspective, same old witch-hunt BS as usual, always.

it's really not abuse to me, seriously, it just cracks me up how closed minded you guys can be sometimes...lol

so now it's the friggin' clymer manual thats full of BS, and no matter what other published or non-published literature I find that eludes to a two-stroke expansion chamber being called an "extractor" it will most assuredly come under attack in the same stupid manner.
LOL, it wouldn't matter if GOD got on here told you it was an extractor, you would say it's bull$h!t just because I told you first. seriously, what an utter bunch of kids, and superlatively uneducated at that.
Harrison seems to be the only one with a brain, and even he doesn't agree with me...lol

 

[sflsurfrider]

it wouldn't matter if GOD got on here told you it was an extractor, you would say it's bull$h!t

it would be BS even if the easter bunny told me.

post your video or run along.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

youre right. and when youre right, youre right. and youre right!

i think wads new title needs to be rainman.

and your new title needs to be SFL, ...lol

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

Its about the sound wave causing a negative pressure and drawing fuel air mixture out of the exhaust
this is what we call scavenging

Hey, genius.......vvvvvvvv

"When a VW Bug has a merged exhaust, this is almost always also an extractor exhaust. The flow of gas out the merged part actually creates a negative pressure on the cylinder that is not on exhaust stroke."


yeah, I really just can NOT see any similarities there at all.



http://laudeman.com/bug_heatriser.html

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

uhm...durr....

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=376

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

yeah, I guess this AustinTashis guy that started this thread doesn't know what hell he's talking about with his second paragraph:

As I understand it, the way a header works is to equalize the time it takes exhaust pulses from each cylinder to reach the collector, so the pulses effectively follow each other evenly through the rest of the exhaust system. This means that the peak back pressure is reduced, because the exhaust pulses that were formerly "bunched" together are now evenly spread out.

http://solsticeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20609