Apology from SBT

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just so I can comprehened the current situation, will somebody please fill me in on the following.

1) did javier ever figure out the overheat issue? I guess cooling was not the issue, is it carbs? Ignition?
2) I was leaning toward his side in all this till I found out he was PMing about other probs that may hav e voided his warranty. Not to attack him but if he needed to be dishonest why is nobody on his case. why should SBT even talk to him if he is trying to rip them off? Not saying he did, just don't understand why nobody has an issue with him. If I cheated you in a busine3ss deal, are you to blame.

SBT has a no fault warranty. It shouldn't have mattered. The cylidner with the surface rust (that Javier cleaned up with WD40) was NOT the one that failed. The poor kid was just trying to get help and SBT used it against him.

I have sorta followed Javier's problems for almost a year because I had a SL900 and he is one of the only other people that post about a SL900. He got a cursed Polaris :-(

The SBT business plan looks like this: Sell a $450 motor for $900, if 1 in 3 fail you still net $900. I don't really see how they fail that often. Maybe they don't? Maybe we just hear about the bad ones? I dunno. Plus it's got to be tough, how many customers have a motor blow because of a carb. problem or oil pump failure only to install the same old parts on the new motor and blow it up immediately as well?

I run a small business and we do 90% of our business on a forum. We don't own the forum and occasionally I F&^%$ up and somebody gets mad. It seems like they post about it before they even contact me. But the solution is usually: I fix it the best I can, apologize publically for my F&^%$ up and life goes on. Maybe we lose business, maybe we gain it becuase people see I am honest about it?

Is Brian the owner, or just some a$$clown that works there?

Aaron
 

sclevela

X-H2O
umm add me to the list too please...i feel kinda wierd, never been banned before, anywhere...

funny thing is, i didn't do anything...i ribbed sbt a bit when he tried saying he would not moniter e-mails...then when i clarified that if they did read pm's they should inform people of that from the get go, like when they register...my internet goes dead for six hours (thanks comcast:banghead: ) and come back to find all of this...

all of this is absolutly retarded...



www.pwctoday.org ?
 
1) did javier ever figure out the overheat issue? I guess cooling was not the issue, is it carbs? Ignition?
2) I was leaning toward his side in all this till I found out he was PMing about other probs that may hav e voided his warranty. Not to attack him but if he needed to be dishonest why is nobody on his case. why should SBT even talk to him if he is trying to rip them off? Not saying he did, just don't understand why nobody has an issue with him. If I cheated you in a busine3ss deal, are you to blame.
3) is SBT still helping him resolve his issue? last i read javier is waiting for 3? sets of heads to get him up and running.

Well, Aaron sorta gave you an idea of where I stand, but let me break it down further. (btw, I'm not really a kid at 24 by most standards.. I'm married, own a home in S. Florida, etc :))

Bryan (SBT) doesn't like me. He never has. From the day I bought the motor I tried to track the overheat problem (since it started with their motor install!). I posted on their forums asking for help and suggestions. All I received from SBT's TECHNICAL SUPPORT was sarcasm and indifference, to being told "You're not overheating, your sensor must be malfunctioning" (when I had clearly stated that my sensor had been replaced AND tested by me as functional.

But I digress.

I was given permission by SBT to pull the heads to check for blocked cooling passages. Fair enough, I appreciated that and noted as such.

I ordered O-rings to "conform" to SBT as I'm sure they would have wanted it that way. They sent me THE WRONG O-RINGS. Gee what a suprise, now I was stuck for the weekend.

I pulled my exhaust manifold on Saturday night, and found on Sunday morning that some surface rust had developed in the center cylinder. I privately asked ph2ocraft on pwctoday via PM if he thought there would be any problem, considering it just wiped down. Why did I hide it from SBT? Given my relationship with their technical support already, I was worried about their overreaction to the situation... if you were me you'd try to cover your bases too. All that being said, the surface rust did'nt even form in the failed cylinder, so it's a moot point anyways. Something they of course, left out of their "apology." When I cleared the air and my stance, it was deleted.

As to the o-rings being reused. Someone asked me if I was on the water yet, I replied to them privately b/c I was still waiting for SBT to send me replacements but had thrown my motor together with the original o-rings. The o-rings looked pristine, and sealed pristine. Again, a non-issue.. but one I'm sure SBT would have held against me had I brought it out in the open.

Is what I did shady? Take it as you will, but neither thing that I did contributed to the failure of my motor, they were both a non-issue that I chose not to tell SBT about and inquired to trusted individuals.

Noone tipped off SBT. When I made my post on PWCtoday I set off the "I'm on a rampage" alert with Bryan, who decided it would be best to find something to discredit me. Is what he found discreditworthy? I don't think it is, but I'm not the one to decide.... the reader is.
 
I don't think so........he was just looking for any excuse javier......hell he used a post over here as a reason to ban me there.......just another Stupid Brian Tactic or Trick....whatever......
 
Hi Guys, been lurking a while, and finally joined.


I know this sounds stupid, but how about a petition to SBT to have butthead removed as admin?
There are enough of us scattered around that can still get active members on board with this. Refrain from new support on "his" site, and make a statement as the large group we are.
I know there's enough of us to either take back control of our site, or dwindle it down to smaller than his ego.
 
Hi Guys, been lurking a while, and finally joined.


I know this sounds stupid, but how about a petition to SBT to have butthead removed as admin?
There are enough of us scattered around that can still get active members on board with this. Refrain from new support on "his" site, and make a statement as the large group we are.
I know there's enough of us to either take back control of our site, or dwindle it down to smaller than his ego.

how about everybody just calls and asks for greg pickren (the owner) and tell him whats going on and what BS it is. it probably wont matter if he already knows about it. but it could be a rude awakening if he doesnt.

anyone need the ph#?:smile:
 
I'll take it......
If we wanted to be rotten we could gather a bunch of the banned, damned, and anyone else....and start placing customer service complaints.....after all pwctoday is an arm and advertising vehicle for them.....lol.....if I wanted to be spiteful....
 

SuperJETT

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how about everybody just calls and asks for greg pickren (the owner) and tell him whats going on and what BS it is. it probably wont matter if he already knows about it. but it could be a rude awakening if he doesnt.

anyone need the ph#?:smile:

One of these days people will listen, Greg Pickren bought the site, Greg Pickren owns SBT, Bryan just does what he wants.
 
One of these days people will listen, Greg Pickren bought the site, Greg Pickren owns SBT, Bryan just does what he wants.

whos not listening?

i know picknose owns sbt and the pwct and i know bryans his do boy. that is irrelevant and we need not type so big. what you and i dont know is if greg knows about bryans recent shenanigans on the site. i think he should know if he doesnt already. that could be enough to get bryan canned if all of this isnt want pickass wants
 

MILF

aka Kathy
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Soooo.....

Does this latest broad banning incident mean the board members at the X are going to be a little more receptive to couchers?:dunno:

I think the 'sit to ski, sit to pee' attitude is keeping a lot of newbies from staying here...:frown:

I originally went to PWCToday looking for knowledge when I had two couches, found the knowledge, so hence I stayed. The X has the knowledge to be what PWCToday once was, but the holier than tho attitudes need to go.

my $.02 worth:rolleyes:

100% Correct..... Thank you!:cheer:
 

sclevela

X-H2O
whos not listening?

i know picknose owns sbt and the pwct and i know bryans his do boy. that is irrelevant and we need not type so big. what you and i dont know is if greg knows about bryans recent shenanigans on the site. i think he should know if he doesnt already. that could be enough to get bryan canned if all of this isnt want pickass wants


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