**Sebby - Oct. 13th & 14th**

felix5oh

Carajo,gringos apestosos
Location
Miami,FL
My T2000 Kenworth is nothing compared to what captain drives. I'm jealous.

Sideshow fits right into this group. We are brutaly honest and not afraid to tell someone what's wrong with them or their ski.

Stricky must be feeling better cause he looked like he got raped Sat night. I could have taken his lunch money.

Thanks to StuntBike for the extra info. Endless goofing going on now.

What's that i see in the bed of the truck next to Slutty?






See you guys when i get back in town.
 
well one thing I can tell you not to try is a JSS rebuilt coil.We have a few of them here in VA and they all ground out in salt water. John swears that others he have sold work for salt water riders,but im sorry thats just BS.

A good ride is too important to miss because of a used coil,IMHO its well $ spent buying a brand new oem coil,that way if something is still going wrong you KNOW you can rule out the coil.
 
very true with the cdi compared to a new one,but id just as well buy a new coil and not have to change it out on the beach,I rather be riding for those 20min plus the 10 min slow wake in and out most places.....40 min wasted
 
True,with most other parts,but since the coil is the prob A HUGE % of the time,I just think its better to buy a new one,so it DOESNT just break right in the middle of a session.
 
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while we are on the subject,what has been you guys experience with yami copper coils vs the more expensive fiber coils with built on boots of the b2

jetrock,perhaps the "and others" part needs a edit lol
 
i always bring spare cdis/coils/battery cables with me... it takes 15-20 minutes to swap out a coil on the beach, no big deal.

i buy complete elect boxes whenever they pop up cheap and i have some cash in my paypal account. over the years, its turned out to be a great investment. its help me and others get up and running quickly in no time.


absolutly.... x10!!!!!


spare electrical parts are priceless for salt riders.....



and changing out a coil on the beach is nothing....I rember seeing JR doing a motor swap at sebby one year :notworthy:
 
lol,A new coil can be had for 65 bucks.....come on richie rich

A ton of us here tried the JSS coils with the msd boots,and they all grounded out in the salt water......I just dont understand it. put in a new coil and FLAWLESS.

so no experience with the fiber core coils?
 
absolutly.... x10!!!!!


spare electrical parts are priceless for salt riders.....



and changing out a coil on the beach is nothing....I rember seeing JR doing a motor swap at sebby one year :notworthy:

I used to have tons of extra crap for the 701...now...I don't have a spare freakin spark plug. And yes....it sucks ass:cheer2:
 

Mark44

Katie's Boss
Location
100% one place
well one thing I can tell you not to try is a JSS rebuilt coil.We have a few of them here in VA and they all ground out in salt water. John swears that others he have sold work for salt water riders,but im sorry thats just BS.

A good ride is too important to miss because of a used coil,IMHO its well $ spent buying a brand new oem coil,that way if something is still going wrong you KNOW you can rule out the coil.

I don’t really understand how a coil can ground out from salt water it is sealed and the plug wires are sealed in the coil case and the coil is in the electrical box. Sounds like there may be other issues other than the coil.

Mark44
 

Mark44

Katie's Boss
Location
100% one place
i hear bad things about the JSS stuff when used in saltwater from many guys.

i know ollie even posted pics of his stuff that was even corroded i think b/c jss didnt use stainless steel when assembling (the jss e-box removable wires mod)

Yes that would be an issue.

Mark44
 
I don’t really understand how a coil can ground out from salt water it is sealed and the plug wires are sealed in the coil case and the coil is in the electrical box. Sounds like there may be other issues other than the coil.

Mark44


i think most of the time its at the connection of the boot--wire


plus when the coils get old the wires will break inside of the sheathing.....

when it happens though, its plain as day.....


the boat will run great dry, but breakup as soon as saltwater hits it........If you run it on the trailer in the garage with lights off its a freakin' fireworks show!
 

butti

lone wolf
Location
F-XTC
i hear bad things about the JSS stuff when used in saltwater from many guys.

i know ollie even posted pics of his stuff that was even corroded i think b/c jss didnt use stainless steel when assembling (the jss e-box removable wires mod)

i had the same problem
 
Mark,the coil itself doesnt ground out,its the wires and boots that ground out,salt water is a MUCH better conductor than fresh water.

Best test is spray the wires down with a mister bottle with salt water in it,in the garage at night,you will see everyplace it is grounding out.

I just dont understand how these msd boots and thicker wires jss is using is failing when its BRAND NEW. they LOOK twice as nice as oem,great concept but crappy performance. If it had only been one or maybe even 2 you would wonder if they were just bad ones.But we got a bunch at one time for most of the group and everyone failed right off the bat in the surf

Idok.agreed it is the connection with the boot and wire most times,but ive seen wires grounding out WAY before they were starting to break apart inside,these jss coils ground out all over brand new wire in all of our skis,so its not a bad ground
 
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Mark44

Katie's Boss
Location
100% one place
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Mark,the coil itself doesnt ground out,its the wires and boots that ground out,salt water is a MUCH better conductor than fresh water.

Best test is spray the wires down with a mister bottle with salt water in it,in the garage at night,you will see everyplace it is grounding out.

I just dont understand how these msd boots and thicker wires jss is using is failing when its BRAND NEW. they LOOK twice as nice as oem,great concept but crappy performance. If it had only been one or maybe even 2 you would wonder if they were just bad ones.But we got a bunch at one time for most of the group and everyone failed right off the bat in the surf

Idok.agreed it is the connection with the boot and wire most times,but ive seen wires grounding out WAY before they were starting to break apart inside,these jss coils ground out all over brand new wire in all of our skis,so its not a bad ground


Yes I agree just couldn't see how the coil grounded out from an engineering stand point. I thought thats what you were talking about my bad.

Mark44
 
a used coil is just as good. and cheaper. :silly:

also gives you a good excuse to open up/clean/degrease your ebox.

ive heard about the JSS stuff not being ideal for salt. the freshy dudes love it.

Actually, the stuff I am running is all stainless. I put that setup together. But, It is basically the same thing as the JSS which is (or was not) stainless.

The problem I found is that the elec box case + the "hot" stud is too close together and you get electrolysis between the two. I actually used Spark plug wire grommets for the pass throughs (you cannot buy the Battery cable passthroughs seperatley) which made the problems worse. The spark plug wire grommets put the stuff even closer to the grounded case.

I still like the design but the electrolysis problem needs to be dealt with. All it needs is more distance. After all the Kawi elec box does not have the electolysis probs.
 
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