CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
yes!! I cant get that position! Thats what I"m trying for!
nose stab help
- Thread starter CarFanatic
- Start date
yes!! I cant get that position! Thats what I"m trying for!
cookerq62
Life's Been Good
- Location
- Upper Bucks, PA
My problem is not getting into that position its riding away clean. I always end up sinking the nose way too deep then the ski 'bobs' up uncontrollably and I end up tipping over or I have to take a leg out of the tray. The only times I get it right is when I kick my legs out at the last second. Riding out I almost have to do a power 180. Riding out straight ends up in a tailstand.
Frosty
New York Crew
- Location
- Western New York
once the ski planes out under water, get back on the throttle and you'll emerge from the water like that ghost ship in the pirates of the Caribbean.
this is how mine used to turn out until I learned to get on the gas more...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW7Bm9nJYw0"]YouTube - nose stab[/ame]
this is how mine used to turn out until I learned to get on the gas more...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW7Bm9nJYw0"]YouTube - nose stab[/ame]
CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
frosty, thats looks similar to the bronco 180.. you just crank the bars there with gas to do that?
Frosty
New York Crew
- Location
- Western New York
bunny hop, pin throttle, crank bars and kick your ass around.
CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
I will try next time out!
Ericfox
Do it twice?That's DooDoo
- Location
- Akron area --> OHIO!
try a bronco 180- nose stab with no wake or prehop....
dont worry about pulling your feet up or body position so much... dont try to pull your feet up actually.... the ski has to do the work... go straight just enough to get out on plane..... then turn the bars to the right and when you just barely dig the nose in as you turn the bars right - gas it! and at the same time crank the bars left... dont pull your feet up or go crazy trying to whip the ski around with your body.... the ski will pretty much do its own thing... try it... it will take a while to get the right combo of speed, turning of bars, and timing... but you'll get it eventually...
once you figure out how to do these you can do regular nose stabs and do rolls with about 1/2 the practice that you would have to do starting from scratch...
dont worry about pulling your feet up or body position so much... dont try to pull your feet up actually.... the ski has to do the work... go straight just enough to get out on plane..... then turn the bars to the right and when you just barely dig the nose in as you turn the bars right - gas it! and at the same time crank the bars left... dont pull your feet up or go crazy trying to whip the ski around with your body.... the ski will pretty much do its own thing... try it... it will take a while to get the right combo of speed, turning of bars, and timing... but you'll get it eventually...
once you figure out how to do these you can do regular nose stabs and do rolls with about 1/2 the practice that you would have to do starting from scratch...
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CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
cool, I figued nose stab, and bronce 180 would be my best bet to progress to trying rolls. we should meet up some where and ride soon.
Ericfox
Do it twice?That's DooDoo
- Location
- Akron area --> OHIO!
yeah for sure man... we'll get something going in the next few weeks hopefully
CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
cool
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
Dude-u r makin all the same mistakes I made for a long time-KISS-keep it simple stupid!!!
flat water-smooth
just above idle speed barely on plane
very SMALL prehop slightly to the right
as nose goes down to the right-crank the bars all the way left and pin the throttle and GET YO AZZ AGAINST THE BARS AND KEEP IT THERE!!! Literally pretend u r dry humping your handle bars and keep your head as far forward as it will go!!!
The guy that made me figure it out said
a lil hop to the right and a big hop to the left and kiss the gas cap-it worked like a charm!
CoreyLKN
LKN Freestyle Militia
- Location
- Lake norman, nc
This is basically what my stabs/bronco 180's/whatever you call them looked like...
chrisdoc0608
insulting
- Location
- rocky mount, nc
It all comes down to commitment. When I was learning them I would puss out and back off a bit and always eat poop, as soon as I began to just go for it and not back out it was really easy. I also agree that a setup wake is not necessary, I like to get a nice speed then throw the weight of the ski off a bit with a pre hop then crank the bars and nail the throttle and the ski does all the work.
- Location
- Palm Beach County
its all personal preference....personally i cant do a stab without a set-up wake.
commitment is key tho
commitment is key tho
CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
going to try some of these tips this weekend hopefully.. Guess I'll try with out the set up wake. I dont always get a good set up wake anyways!
I found the best help for stabs is to lock the steering and pin the throttle sooner than you think you should, I had a hard time getting over it and had to put way more effort into stabs, doing everything earlier gives you more kick/rotation. As soon as you land from the prehop (the millisecond a single inch of your ski touches the water) full lock and full throttle.
Here is a stupid little video I made last year, midway through is a stab off of a ripple, ignore the rest.
http://pwctoday.com/attachments/f89/144081d1228506533-quick-clip-shanes-helmet-cam-quickskiclip.wmv
Here is a stupid little video I made last year, midway through is a stab off of a ripple, ignore the rest.
http://pwctoday.com/attachments/f89/144081d1228506533-quick-clip-shanes-helmet-cam-quickskiclip.wmv
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CarFanatic
Fiberglassing Newb
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
nice! I cant wait till I can pull that off!
- Location
- Palm Beach County
youll get it, especially with that nice new x-scream set up u got!!!!!
Me too, after I put in my motor I am re-learning all the old tricks, I am just now getting back to that point (when I had a 701 with bolt ons) practice is where its at, riding with/watching others helps a LOT, 95% to get the balls to do it 5% to learn their technique.