Lamey vs 66E

superramjet, what is done to your 66e?

mine has been sleeved and I'm running 88mm polaris snowmobile pistons with riva big bore heads and custom cut domes that move the oring position. Very light porting, the powervalves are stock and permantely fixed in the up position. I have dual 46mm full spectrums and Msd total loss. Fairly simple setup. After I sell my black and silver xjet, I going to buy the custom billet 1200cc cylinders, and a set of the new 49mm full spectrums.

you can big bore with sleeves, pistons and even machine the oem head to save cash.

The 1200 in the picture is running waterdawg brackets to place the 66e motor upright and in the 701 motor mount position. This makes it possible to install the 800 motor in superjet and blasters.
 

WaveDemon

Not Dead - Notable Member
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wow, sounds like your set up is more than I would like to spend in mods. I'd like to get in as cheap as possible and mod from there.

maybe just a big bore and clean up the transfers myself. why do you have the power valves in the up position? doesn't that hurt low end?
 
the bore is large enough that it needs all the exhaust opening. I've tried it both ways, it runs better with them open. It also saves you about $400 in gas powervalve parts.
The 1200cc waterdawg cylinders run the powervalves because it has a larger exhaust opening to start with.
 
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the bore is large enough that it needs all the exhaust opening. I've tried it both ways, it runs better with them open. It also saves you about $400 in gas powervalve parts.
The 1200cc waterdawg cylinders run the powervalves because it has a larger exhaust opening to start with.
HOW MUCH ARE THE 1200 CYLS GOING TO RUN $
 
while a superstock 800cc 66e may hang with a lamey, a big bore 66e will kill any lamey, The comparison is being made with the small 80mm piston setup (to stay legal for your racing class) to a fully built 62t, stroked, aftermarket cylinder, head, larger piston, etc. The 66e platform is far superior, you are comparing a fully maxed out 62t platform to an almost stock 66e platform. You are also comparing 2 different ski with quite a difference in weight at least 100lbs if both hulls are stock. The 66e motor can go 87,88mm, with different cylinders you can run 98mm (1200cc) on the 66e platform, this isn't even factoring in that you can stroke the 66e also. I've ridden a couple of the best freestyle set up lameys. My 66e is better. I"m not even running the good stuff either.

Jeff weighed his 5mm pv lamey complete with, carbs, arrestors, complete pipe and complete electric and his new 1200cc, 66e motor (twin not the triple), setup like it goes in the standup, with complete electric, pipe, carbs and it was 15lbs heavier. Not enough to matter from the power it produces.

if you build a 66e motor to the level you built a lamey setup, you will make more power everywhere. the 62t platform is maxed out the, while the 66e is just getting started.
I want someone to tell me their lamey is making more horsepower, torque, brap, than this:
1200cc of lamey stomping power


Sorry, but I doubt your punched out single pipe'd 800 makes any more power than our full TJ built Superstock TWIN PIPED 800 with total loss, Full Specs, flat tops, etc. Twin pipes add a lot more HP than boring, any day of the week.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Scott
 
Sorry, but I doubt your punched out single pipe'd 800 makes any more power than our full TJ built Superstock TWIN PIPED 800 with total loss, Full Specs, flat tops, etc. Twin pipes add a lot more HP than boring, any day of the week.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Scott

what does a blaster 3 weigh and what does your blaster 1 weigh? Do you think Tj could make your ski more powerfull by going with a bigger bore and stroking your 66e? You are also running different size pumps in both of them. I just don't think the comparison is fair, to come up with your conclusion. I don't doubt at all tj can build a better motor than me. I do have to clarify too that I'm going for bottom end pull and hit more than top speed.
 
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Mile9c1

X-H2O.com
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Grand Rapids, MI
Sorry, but I doubt your punched out single pipe'd 800 makes any more power than our full TJ built Superstock TWIN PIPED 800 with total loss, Full Specs, flat tops, etc. Twin pipes add a lot more HP than boring, any day of the week.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Scott

He never said he made more peak power than a twin piped 66e engine. You don't think a big bore 66e will hit sooner than a little bore 66e ported to turn max RPM?? Hitting HARD early is what makes his a Lamey killer.

We're not trying to go 75mph here...
 
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what does a blaster 3 weigh and what does your blaster 1 weigh? Do you think Tj could make your ski more powerfull by going with a bigger bore and stroking your 66e? You are also running different size pumps in both of them. I just don't think the comparison is fair, to come up with your conclusion. I don't doubt at all tj can build a better motor than me. I do have to clarify too that I'm going for bottom end pull and hit more than top speed.

Again, we will have to agree to disagree. Yes, TJ could make the 800 faster with more bore and stroke, but he could also build a 10mm 87mm bore Lamey. I was comparing apples to apples, 800cc to 800cc. Have you ever ridden a big bore (85cc-87cc) 8mm-10mm stroke PV Lamey with all to goodies? Makes sence to think it would be substancially more power than an 800cc race legal machine.

Scott
 
He never said he made more peak power than a twin piped 66e engine. You don't think a big bore 66e will hit sooner than a little bore 66e ported to turn max RPM?? Hitting HARD early is what makes his a Lamey killer.

We're not trying to go 75mph here...

My motors are built for bottom end, off the line grunt. 75mph? Not is a Blaster. The only advantage a Blaster will ever have is off the line power.

SM
 

2002zxi

Got old, bought another ski
Location
MO/OK
hey superramjet...

How long can you ride that demon of a ski you have before it's out of fuel?
 
Again, we will have to agree to disagree. Yes, TJ could make the 800 faster with more bore and stroke, but he could also build a 10mm 87mm bore Lamey. I was comparing apples to apples, 800cc to 800cc. Have you ever ridden a big bore (85cc-87cc) 8mm-10mm stroke PV Lamey with all to goodies? Makes sence to think it would be substancially more power than an 800cc race legal machine.

Scott

i have a 8mm lamey built by the man himself, I've ridden it's twin built with 49 full specs, tloss, bpipe in a 70lb german lightweight hull (btw the owner of that ski is switching to the 66e platform). I ridden several others setup purely for freestyle. my 951cc with 245 lb of compression and single wet pipe has more hit off the bottom and pulls longer .

It's not an apples to apple comparision because you are running them in vastly different boats with different pumps and weights. The lamey is a mod motor and your 800 is an ss motor.

put your lamey in your waveblaster 3, you think it would perform the same as it does in your blaster 1.
 
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THRUST

ThrustInnovations.com
try pat from x metal i know he was making one for the super jet it is louder than the waterbox but it has got to be quite a bit lighter and gice you more flow for more power . try a smaller battery if you can go smaller you would be amazed at the weight in those or smaller fuel tank .
 
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