Inside The Watercraft Factory!

RiverRat

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Due to popular demand here are some pics inside "The Factory"

-these hulls are layed up with 1208 bi-axial mat and vinyl ester resin. Cooling lines are SS. Exhaust is thin wall aluminium made by x-metal.

How is that exhaust secured to the outside of the hull? Is there a flange on there? I can't get a good angle on it in the pic. Does that epoxy on the lines and exhaust remain pliable?
 

RiverRat

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Epoxy is brittle.

Depends on the epoxy, but that is my logic as well. When wrapped around metal and subjected to vibration the metal can start to break away from the epoxy unless it is achually an adhesive that remains pliable. Remaining pliable is what will keep the stuff from breaking away from the metal tubes from potentiall leaking. If the epoxy is hard it will be brittle, no matter how thick you pile it on.
 

SuperJETT

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What's ridiculous is all you 'non-hull-builders' picking apart every detail from the people that actually build and sell these things. Obviously they have tried different materials and found what works for them. If it didn't work, they wouldn't be selling stuff for very long and we'd be hearing about it.

I know about properties of different materials, but if it works, it works.

Otherwise, there would be only one way to make a hull, with one material, etc. Heck, Yamaha and Kawasaki are so far apart in how they make their skis, there is obviously more than one way to skin a partridge in a pear tree.

If you prefer the materials one person uses over another, go with them. If not, don't. Or I guess you can just keep posting and complaining about it when you're never going to buy one anyway.
 

RiverRat

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Louisville, Ky
What's ridiculous is all you 'non-hull-builders' picking apart every detail from the people that actually build and sell these things. Obviously they have tried different materials and found what works for them. If it didn't work, they wouldn't be selling stuff for very long and we'd be hearing about it.

I know about properties of different materials, but if it works, it works.

Otherwise, there would be only one way to make a hull, with one material, etc. Heck, Yamaha and Kawasaki are so far apart in how they make their skis, there is obviously more than one way to skin a partridge in a pear tree.

If you prefer the materials one person uses over another, go with them. If not, don't. Or I guess you can just keep posting and complaining about it when you're never going to buy one anyway.

There is a difference between complaining and asking technical questions. I think keeping ones composure and not feeling biased towards on builder or the next is a great way for the individual to better understand the options that can be obtained on thier boat. It is not about who, but rather asking the questions to better understand the hows and whys of hull building. There is more than one way to build a hull............but I like to discuss things to better understand them. I for one am not content taking everything people say for face value. I like discussing the differnet techniques and materials hull builders use. It is not bashing and if it is preceived as such I will just call the builder. I talk to Jeff on a regular basis and he has helped me allot. I met Steve at Lanier and he knows that the first thing I do is start asking questions.

Whether it be a discussion concering ABS plastic exhaust, 5200, epoxy, type of resin, type of cooling line..........whatever I feel it is all open for discussion. In the end it all is up to the builder and client as far as what thy want to use but I feel it provides and nice peice of mind when making those decision if you know the facts and various opinions on the subject.
 
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RiverRat

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Louisville, Ky
Didn't Pancaker almost break the Wamiltons lightweight hull in half in 2 days last year at Daytona .I do not think a 65 lb hull would last long in surf .
Lake surf is not ocean surf

I am wanting to say that was a OEM hull w/ a wammer hood. But a 60lbs wet laid flatwater hull is not built to take that kind of abuse. Even in the surf though if you hit bottom hard......I don't care what it is made of you will either crack just break something.
 

Big Kahuna

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I am wanting to say that was a OEM hull w/ a wammer hood. But a 60lbs wet laid flatwater hull is not built to take that kind of abuse. Even in the surf though if you hit bottom hard......I don't care what it is made of you will either crack just break something.

Full Wammer........... Madoyster bought it from Pete.

It did not last a day..........
 
Full Wammer........... Madoyster bought it from Pete.

It did not last a day..........


wait...maybe im not understanidng...


I was standing right there when pete dragged his boat up and flipped it over....

are you saying he just got that hull that day? I thought he had been on it for some time.......




then i know he sold it, but oyster bought it (not ross??????)
 

waterfreak

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What's ridiculous is all you 'non-hull-builders' picking apart every detail from the people that actually build and sell these things. Obviously they have tried different materials and found what works for them. If it didn't work, they wouldn't be selling stuff for very long and we'd be hearing about it.

I know about properties of different materials, but if it works, it works.

Otherwise, there would be only one way to make a hull, with one material, etc. Heck, Yamaha and Kawasaki are so far apart in how they make their skis, there is obviously more than one way to skin a partridge in a pear tree.

If you prefer the materials one person uses over another, go with them. If not, don't. Or I guess you can just keep posting and complaining about it when you're never going to buy one anyway.

What he said!
to answer riverrat's question, I have used 2 parts epoxy glue in that area without any failures so far. the exhaust is actually wedged on top of the scupper tunnel and inside the cut out of the hull. Even before the epoxy , it is acutally very well stuck in the hull.

next question!:biggthumpup:
 

RiverRat

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Louisville, Ky
What he said!
to answer riverrat's question, I have used 2 parts epoxy glue in that area without any failures so far. the exhaust is actually wedged on top of the scupper tunnel and inside the cut out of the hull. Even before the epoxy , it is acutally very well stuck in the hull.

next question!:biggthumpup:

Cool. Thanks :biggthumpup: See Darin, that was not so painful was it. :rolleyes:
 
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