SX/SXi/SXi Pro Do you trust your oil injection?

[sflsurfrider]

hahaha!

travis has long been the resident retard on pwctoday, and now hes making his home as the resident retard here.

this is great! just like old times!

somebody ask about 650 v-force reeds or sumthin.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

wow read that again i dont know one person that has even ran the oil injection they take em right off! and look at the new sxrs.. they took the sh*t off for a reason! mix it right and there will be no probs, waterhawk=dumb fo sho

duh idiot!...LOL go back and read both pages again, and look at wtf you're talking about. charlie is saying leave the damned thing on and run premix at the same time...LOL I'm not the one advocating the stupid poop, He is.

this guy was asking about oil injections and if they're worth a poop, I said no, they fail, take the thing off, flush premix through the lines and the carb, back into the tank, change the jets to compensate, etc.. charlie is talking about leaving the damned oil injection hooked up and still pumping oil to the motor AND running premix at the same time, AND not changing the jets and just spinning the adjusters to TRY and compensate (bad move), which all three of those combined will totally f'k over a motor worse than charlies brain already is...LOL not to mention that before the thing finally trashed, it would smoke harder than charlie does when he hits that rock he keeps talkin' about. I wish some of you guys actually knew how to pay attention sometimes. that poop gets old as hell.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

charlie,

you do know who you are talking to right!!!

and if you believe any of the crap charlie spouts, you're just as dumb as he is..LOL

 

[wayne]

so by your theory. if you mix too much oil in you gas you will blow your engine. so if mix the oil 2.5 oz to a gallon of gas (50:1) one time and them 3 oz to a gallon the next time, you will need to change jets or you will blow your engine. according to your theory that is how is works, because now you have too much oil going through your carb.

in my knowledge base, this will only cause early plug failure. not engine failure.

if i am wrong, please enlighten me.

 

[sflsurfrider]

duh idiot!...LOL go back and read both pages again, and look at wtf you're talking about. charlie is saying leave the damned thing on and run premix at the same time...LOL I'm not the one advocating the stupid poop, He is.

this guy was asking about oil injections and if they're worth a poop, I said no, they fail, take the thing off, flush premix through the lines and the carb, back into the tank, change the jets to compensate, etc.. charlie is talking about leaving the damned oil injection hooked up and still pumping oil to the motor AND running premix at the same time, AND not changing the jets and just spinning the adjusters to TRY and compensate (bad move), which all three of those combined will totally f'k over a motor worse than charlies brain already is...LOL not to mention that before the thing finally trashed, it would smoke harder than charlie does when he hits that rock he keeps talkin' about. I wish some of you guys actually knew how to pay attention sometimes. that poop gets old as hell.

uh, what i said was..."premix first, with the oil injection still connected.

run the engine and make sure the premix is getting to the carb.

THEN remove the oil injection. "


did you not read the last sentence, genius? you should learn to pay attention sometimes.

besides, injected oil doesnt even travel through the jets.

wow. i cant believe im arguing with a complete idiot.

 

[Matt_E]

realize everybody gets there dong stuck in a zipper sometimes.

Some more often than others.
Some will claim that it was an intentional move, utilizing the Extractor zipper.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

uh, what i said was..."premix first, with the oil injection still connected.

run the engine and make sure the premix is getting to the carb.

THEN remove the oil injection. "

stupid move. yes, you put too much oil to the engine and you will burn it up. I read what you posted, and you're retarded. and the carb needs to be rejeted.


wayne, that is correct. it's not a "theory".

 

[sflsurfrider]

stupid move. yes, you put too much oil to the engine and you will burn it up. I read what you posted, and you're retarded. and the carb needs to be rejeted.


wayne, that is correct. it's not a "theory".

putting too much oil through the engine will burn it up, even if it doesnt go through the jets?

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

putting too much oil through the engine will burn it up, even if it doesnt go through the jets?

you're running things together again charlie.

first off, you stated to leave the oil injection hooked up while running premix to make sure it gets to the engine. that will feed too much oil to the engine vs. fuel.

secondly, when you switch to premix, you have to rejet the carbs to larger jets in order to compensate for the oil added going through the jets, to allow the right amount of fuel to continue flowing through them.


when making the switch, if you flush the lines and the carb with premix with a pump bulb, and you monitor the mixture flowing through the carb via/ the return line going back into the tank, there's no need to leave the oil injection system connected, and you get it done all at one time.

yes, too much oil vs. fuel, going to the engine will burn it up. not changing the jets to larger orifices when adding oil to fuel will cause a lean condition with the fuel. you're getting way too much oil, on top of not enough fuel.

you couple that with leaving the oil injection pumping oil to the engine, and yeah, you will cook the top end.

 

[Hagan]

yes, too much oil vs. fuel, going to the engine will burn it up.

What does burn it up mean? Does this mean it will start on fire:slap:

 

[DoGoodDrugs]

To the OP, we're sorry this turned into a little bickering match, but don't worry about these girls.

When you install the oil block off plate to switch to premix, just empty your tank, run it to get the fuel out of the lines, install the block off plate and mix your fuel and oil. You don't need to worry about all these jetting things. In order to run at it's peak you might need to adjust the carbs a little, but probably no more than 1/4 turn. You won't need new jets or anything.

 

[wayne]

per the waterhawk

make sure you run the EXACT oil mixture or you will blow you engine. if you are running 50:1 do not mix it any different or you will have to rejet or blow your engine. it will not foul you plugs, like thought before. IT WILL DESTROY YOUR ENGINE, PERIOD. all you people that have changed fouled plugs due to too much oil need to not change your plugs any more. you must rebuild your engine. even though changing the plugs seemed like it worked, it is just a figment of your imagination.


you have been worned by the waterhawk.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

so by your theory. if you mix too much oil in you gas you will blow your engine. so if mix the oil 2.5 oz to a gallon of gas (50:1) one time and them 3 oz to a gallon the next time, you will need to change jets or you will blow your engine. according to your theory that is how is works, because now you have too much oil going through your carb.

in my knowledge base, this will only cause early plug failure. not engine failure.

if i am wrong, please enlighten me.

again, it not a theory.
you run that much more oil, on top of running your oil injection at the same time and you will be feeding way too much oil to the engine. if your jets are set to run fuel only and you just decide you want to run premix, you will need to use larger jets.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

What does burn it up mean? Does this mean it will start on fire:slap:

it means at the factory, they've set your carb up to run fuel only,because there's an oil injection pump feeding oil to the engine through the side of the intake manifold. it meters how much oil to give the engine based on the amount of rpms. it is spun by the flywheel bolt. when you decide to switch the thing over to run premix, those factory-set jets aren't sized to handle flowing fuel and oil through them, and usually need to be changed to a larger size to compensate for the added mixture. this allows the proper amount of fuel(as before) as well as enough oil in the mix to lubricate the motor.

"burn it up" means exactly that, burn it up. without changing the jets to a larger size and mixing oil with the gas you are cutting back on the amount of fuel the jets can flow by mixing oil with the fuel and putting them both through the jets. this can cause a lean condition, if you're also, at the same time leaving your oil injection hooked up and it's also pumping oil to the engine (which by the way is the absolute DUMBEST thing I think I've seen charlie say, to date....lol ) it will add way too much oil to the mix at the manifold, and too much oil vs. fuel can burn up a motor internally, just like too much fuel and not enough oil can burn one up, as well. these engines are designed to burn specific ratios of both. you go screwing around like he is talking and going way to far one way or the other with it, and it will not respond well to the change...lol

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

it's best to take the thing in and have it professionally done, if you're going to do the switch, I don't recommend listening to "wayne brain" from mesquite texas, or "chucky the genius" from alligator alley...lol

seriously.

 

[Matt_E]

Professionally done?
A switch to premix, right?

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

Professionally done?
A switch to premix, right?

hogwash...lol

 

[sflsurfrider]

travis, what jets should be bigger, and by how many sizes?

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

travis, what jets should be bigger, and by how many sizes?

hogwash...LOL

 

[sflsurfrider]

thanks for saving me reading time.

that was actually way more insightful than anything else i couldve possibly ever expected from you.