SX/SXi/SXi Pro Do you trust your oil injection?

[the WaTeRhAwK]

Okay, I understand.

Do you know the stock size jets and which jets I would need...like how much bigger?

So, the oil injection really isn't all that great?

well, first you need to know what size jets you already have, and depending on what your setup is exactly, it's unguessable at this point. you need to know the current jet size and work your way up to tune and dial it in.

yeah, oil injection "isn't all that great" if you consider having to rebuild your top end when it decides to fail, "not all that great".

 

[sflsurfrider]

yes, and it is also possible to lean the motor out with allowing too much oil vs. fuel through the needles, doing it that way.

WHAT?!?!?!

how is there too much oil going through the needles my way vs your way????

 

[wayne]

WHAT?!?!?!

how is there too much oil going through the needles my way vs your way????

charlie,

you do know who you are talking to right!!!

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

WHAT?!?!?!

how is there too much oil going through the needles my way vs your way????

well, for one thing, he can't use the same jets. the other thing is, even if he tries to just start premixing with rejeting and running oil in the fuel, with the oil injection still pumping oil into the motor, you can burn up the engine one of two ways, or both....... not increasing the jet size, and/or throwing too much oil through the motor. neither one of those things are good. if he was to do that he would be lucky if the plugs fouled and kept the lean fuel condition caused by too small of jets from making a runaway motor on top of way too much oil.


you didn't tell him to change his jets. all you said was start premixing, on top of leaving the oil injection going. big no no.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

charlie,

you do know who you are talking to right!!!

do you?

 

[Hagan]

Did you do this to your ski?

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

Did you do this to your ski?

yeah, after I trashed it with the oil injection crap...lol

 

[sflsurfrider]

well, for one thing, he can't use the same jets. the other thing is, even if he tries to just start premixing with rejeting and running oil in the fuel, with the oil injection still pumping oil into the motor, you can burn up the engine one of two ways, or both....... not increasing the jet size, and/or throwing too much oil through the motor. neither one of those things are good. if he was to do that he would be lucky if the plugs fouled and kept the lean fuel condition caused by too small of jets from making a runaway motor on top of way too much oil.


you didn't tell him to change his jets. all you said was start premixing, on top of leaving the oil injection going. big no no.

you didnt tell him to change his jets until after my post.


travis, youre full of shyt, dude.

premixing on an oil injected engine without rejetting will not "lean the motor out".

i dare you to present just ONE single episode of this ever happening.

i know more oil = less fuel.... but nothing that cant be adjusted by the needle adjustors

im not asking for your retarded theories. just proof.

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

you didnt tell him to change his jets until after my post.


travis, youre full of shyt, dude.

premixing on an oil injected engine without rejetting will not "lean the motor out".

i dare you to present just ONE single episode of this ever happening.

im not asking for your retarded theories.

just proof.

you're a retard charlie. sorry if the truth hurts.


stfu


lol

if you need any proof, ask any experienced builder of two-stroke engines and they will be more than happy to "prove" it to you. or you can try it yourself....lol


r


just read what you quoted me saying S L O W E R, maybe it will make sense, doubtful, although, maybe.

 

[sflsurfrider]

you're a retard charlie. sorry if the truth hurts.


stfu


lol

if you need any proof, ask any experienced builder of two-stroke engines and they will be more than happy to "prove" it to you. or you can try it yourself....lol


r

thats what i thought id get. a stfu and a name calling and ZERO proof of what you regurgitated from something you read on the internet.

you never said anything about rejetting untill you responded to my post.

in other words, you saw that i posted an alternate way of doing something that you posted, then tried to knock me down by saying that you have to re-jet.

why didnt you mention rejetting before my post?

BECAUSE YOU ARE A KING IDIOT.

you do not HAVE to rejet for premixing due to leaning an engine. MAYBE you have to richen the high speed adjuster. thats it.

 

[sflsurfrider]

okay, i just re-read it S L O W E R and youre even more of an idiot now.

suddenly premixing AND injection can destroy an engine from too much oil?
:haha:
whatever dood

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

okay, i just re-read it S L O W E R and youre even more of an idiot now.

suddenly premixing AND injection can destroy an engine from too much oil?
:haha:
whatever dood

yes, the two coupled together, too much oil, and not increasing the size of the jets = lean condition, meltdown. yeps.


ask around , genius...lol

any experienced builder will tell you, when you switch to premix from oil injection, you don't just richen the adjusters. it's a good thing you don't do this stuff for a living charlie, you wouldn't be in business for very long...lol

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

when a carb if jetted for just running fuel only, and then you start running oil mixed in the fuel, that same sized jet is not going to let enough fuel through because there is now oil mixed with it, cutting the ratio of fuel down = lean condition that adjusters will not fix. on top of that you're still running the oil injection, you'll burn the motor up, and you'd be lucky not to even if you rejetted the thing..LOL

 

[WILD_KYLE]

No!

 

[WILD_KYLE]

wow read that again i dont know one person that has even ran the oil injection they take em right off! and look at the new sxrs.. they took the sh*t off for a reason! mix it right and there will be no probs, waterhawk=dumb fo sho

 

[sflsurfrider]

wow read that again i dont know one person that has even ran the oil injection they take em right off! and look at the new sxrs.. they took the sh*t off for a reason! mix it right and there will be no probs, waterhawk=dumb fo sho

travis has been very dumb for as long as ive seen him online (probably longer)

travis, how many jet sizes should one increase when going to premix?

specifics on lows and highs please.

 

[Hagan]

Is that what you did to your ski then? Did you not change the jets?

 

[sflsurfrider]

wow read that again i dont know one person that has even ran the oil injection they take em right off! and look at the new sxrs.. they took the sh*t off for a reason! mix it right and there will be no probs, waterhawk=dumb fo sho

well if this is true, kawasakis jetting has remained the same from '03 to '09 on the sx-r's.

why wouldnt they have increased jet size due to the need of premixing?

travis? care to explain this one? GENIUS?

 

[sflsurfrider]

i already covered that with, "i know more oil = less fuel.... but nothing that cant be adjusted by the needle adjustors

im not asking for your retarded theories. just proof."

when a carb if jetted for just running fuel only, and then you start running oil mixed in the fuel, that same sized jet is not going to let enough fuel through because there is now oil mixed with it, cutting the ratio of fuel down = lean condition that adjusters will not fix. on top of that you're still running the oil injection, you'll burn the motor up, and you'd be lucky not to even if you rejetted the thing..LOL

^^^ still no proof. i know where you got that theory from too. it was that xxxracing cat from pwct. he used to preach that all the time. you simply bought into it.

fool.

 

[wayne]

do you?

i think this is you. so, the answer to your question above would be "YES".:chairshot:


http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/48817