Custom/Hybrid Carbon Poles

[Schmidty721]

I did a search for Carbon poles and came up with very little.
Who is running one? Who makes them? I see ATP sells one and there was a "SR-71" that just sold used.

With all of the members on here doing custom composite work, I'm surprised there has not been more composite poles being offered. Are they just too hard to make? I'm stepping up from my SN to a carbon BOB this winter and am flirting with the idea of trying to make my own pole.

Any thoughts?

 

[Aircraftsalz]

Tem Berky makes carbon poles... I tested the first one in the surf over 1yr ago, which Chris still has that same pole on his ski. Pole weighted 5.8 lbs

My new SF will have a Tem built carbon pole.... Top notch stuff, light, surf tested.....

 

[chriselmore_1]

xft makes a really nice one and I'm 99% positive superfreak makes one. They are both excellent composites guys

 

[steve-uk]

i spoke with Chris at ATP last week at length about his carbon fibre pole, he even showed me the core which weighed next to nothing, he then proceeded to throw it across his shop and then jump up and down on it to show me how strong it wa, this thing is unbreakable, he said he has challenged many people to break them and no one has to date!

he also said its the one product hes most proud of producing

however...

.. he then also told me its not a big seller.. everyone wants the adjustable pole nowadays and dont realise they can get a strong, light pole made to the length they want, this is one of those products that when you buy it, its the last pole you buy

 

[Lucaumpits]

Superfreak new handlepole is insane, will be ready shortly.

 

[chriselmore_1]

they may not break if you throw em but they do twist and flex quite a biy. They are sssssstupid light!!!!!!!! But I wouldn't run one on a surf ski.

 

[jetkid]

I just bought that SR-71!! I think its an old 24-7 pole. I was told it was 6lbs.... Looks well built and strong. I like it so far. I think it will be very hard to break and it was alot lighter than my glass pole.

I was going to buy a new one from Tem Berky then this one came up for sale.

 

[QJS]

they may not break if you throw em but they do twist and flex quite a biy. They are sssssstupid light!!!!!!!! But I wouldn't run one on a surf ski.

A properly made pre preg carbon laminate has virtually no flex or twist, F1 cars have their chassis made out of it for that reason.
Chris.

 

[jetfreak78]

lightweight.de - norbert weber does also make carbon poles

 

[Schmidty721]

Has a price for Tem's pole been posted?
Do either the XFT or Tem accept breather tubes?

 

[Aircraftsalz]

Tem's will take breather tubes, PM Berky for a price on his pole.

 

[Idok]

I just bought that SR-71!! I think its an old 24-7 pole. I was told it was 6lbs.... Looks well built and strong. I like it so far. I think it will be very hard to break and it was alot lighter than my glass pole.

I was going to buy a new one from Tem Berky then this one came up for sale.

thats pretty much the best pole in the world right there....

 

[yamanube]

Highroller was making some I think.:biggthumpup:

 

[JetManiac]

I have a superfreak carbon pole that I use in the surf all the time, with no issues. I ride hard and had broken 3 of xmetals old non-adjustable poles.

It is awesome, my back used to hurt in the surf with a heavier pole. No more.

 

[Matt_E]

Chris, do you use a spring or what?

 

[QJS]

Most people over here run a tight pole, if we supply a pole bracket with the pole it would come with two bolts to be run tight. If run on another pole bracket you can run a spring no problem (with the usual bending and tweaking and swearing etc.)
Chris.

 

[kevbo]

A properly made pre preg carbon laminate has virtually no flex or twist, F1 cars have their chassis made out of it for that reason.
Chris.

What difference in strength is there between prepreg and wet layup?

 

[QJS]

What difference in strength is there between prepreg and wet layup?

Its almost impossible to say, however I can give you a couple of reasons why it will be stronger.....Firstly it comes pre impregnated with exactly the correct resin to carbon ratio, this is impossible to achieve consistently with wet layup. Secondly wet layup is normally (not always) cured at room temperature while prepreg is cured under vacuum in an oven, epoxy is always stronger when cured at a higher temperature. The temperature is controlled to within one third of a degree and is ramped up at a specified speed, held at at the correct temperature for a specified time and ramped back down. The molds have to be able to withstand the temperature and vacuum and are often carbon based themselves.
One other point is that carbon should be laminated using a different direction for each layer, the first layer would be as it comes off the roll, the second layer at 45 degrees and the next at -45 degrees and so on, this ensures the strongest laminate in all directions. This is also quite wasteful and helps to explain the cost, unfortunately its very difficult for the end user to tell if this has been done correctly or not.
Chris.

 

[Lucaumpits]

spring is for Nancys only, he dont use spring, but he is a nancy anyways

Chris, do you use a spring or what?

 

[chad]

Here is my 24/7 carbon pole .the back side is as nice as the front. I think its 6or 7 lbs. I love it !!