Anyone have any experience with a Polaris Genesis?

ger87410

ger87410

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I'm trying to talk myself outta buying 1. Anyone ever ridden 1?

The pros:
We need a 3+ seater, this is a 4 seater.
Boat is in great cosmetic shape and so is the engine. Engine runs good.

The cons:
She's over 12 feet long! Over 2 feet would be sticking of the end of our trailer
She's almost 800 pounds!
She's $3000. That's more then I wanted to spend on a toy.


So, it comes down to are they good boats? As near as I can tell, Polaris don't make skis anymore... That's gotta mean problems getting parts soon if not now.
 
snowxr

snowxr

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Polaris = RUN AWAY. If anything goes wrong with the electrical you will have a hard time getting replacement parts. Polaris meant well, I'm sure.
 
Kaveman

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Jerry I would stay off of any lake that still allows a Polaris on the water. The injected Genesis has problems with stators and ECMs. The last ECM I replaced was almost 2 years ago, and then it was around $1200 for the part alone. Polaris realized they couldn't be a profitable competitor and bailed on the market back in 2004. If it goes anything like Tigershark then the price of the available parts will be directly related to the supply on hand. Manufacturers still in business are required to keep parts available for 10 years after ceasing to manufacture and sell equipment, but this is a free market and there is nothing that says at what price they must sell these parts. Therefore the lower these manufactures get on a part, the higher the price goes...usually so high that no one will buy it and they maintain availability on that part. It is much cheaper for them to "eat" a few parts than to pay a vendor to produce another run of them.

In the 4 seat market Yamaha had the SUV and Seadoo the LRV (I believe it was.) My pic would be an older WaveVenture.
 
vitaly

vitaly

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Kaveman said:
Jerry I would stay off of any lake that still allows a Polaris on the water. The injected Genesis has problems with stators and ECMs. The last ECM I replaced was almost 2 years ago, and then it was around $1200 for the part alone. Polaris realized they couldn't be a profitable competitor and bailed on the market back in 2004. If it goes anything like Tigershark then the price of the available parts will be directly related to the supply on hand. Manufacturers still in business are required to keep parts available for 10 years after ceasing to manufacture and sell equipment, but this is a free market and there is nothing that says at what price they must sell these parts. Therefore the lower these manufactures get on a part, the higher the price goes...usually so high that no one will buy it and they maintain availability on that part. It is much cheaper for them to "eat" a few parts than to pay a vendor to produce another run of them.

In the 4 seat market Yamaha had the SUV and Seadoo the LRV (I believe it was.) My pic would be an older WaveVenture.
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I really wish you posted this when I made an offer on a 2004 Octane a few weeks ago. The thread turned ugly, most of the posts got deleted, I got an infraction... and I think that the Octane is still there... and no, it is not a "free bump" for that Octane.


Back on topic, LRV (951 engine) or SUV (1200 PV engine), the Doo handled better if you care about any kind of "handling" with this kind of vessel.
The Yamaha was more reliable and could be made bulletproof since it had the same GPR1200 motor popular in the speed record breaking community.
Both models are rarity today.
 
JonnyB

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vitaly said:
Back on topic, LRV (951 engine) or SUV (1200 PV engine), the Doo handled better if you care about any kind of "handling" with this kind of vessel.
The Yamaha was more reliable and could be made bulletproof since it had the same GPR1200 motor popular in the speed record breaking community.
Both models are rarity today.
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the SUV1200 had a NON powervavle engine rated at 135HP

If your willing to travel for an SUV I have seen a few here in Austin in great shape
 
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afcblink

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vitaly said:
Back on topic, LRV (951 engine) or SUV (1200 PV engine), the Doo handled better if you care about any kind of "handling" with this kind of vessel.
The Yamaha was more reliable and could be made bulletproof since it had the same GPR1200 motor popular in the speed record breaking community.
Both models are rarity today.
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Sorry, but the SUV & LRV are Big Fat Pigs.
The Genesis, on the other hand, is a ...um, well, a Skinny Pig.

GENESIS:
  • 10' 11" long
  • 4' 1" wide
  • 725 lbs
SUV:
  • 12' 7" long
  • 5' wide
  • 815 lbs.
LRV:
  • 13' long
  • 5' 1" wide
  • 960 lbs.
 
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vitaly said:
I really wish you posted this when I made an offer on a 2004 Octane a few weeks ago. The thread turned ugly, most of the posts got deleted, I got an infraction... and I think that the Octane is still there... and no, it is not a "free bump" for that Octane.


Back on topic, LRV (951 engine) or SUV (1200 PV engine), the Doo handled better if you care about any kind of "handling" with this kind of vessel.
The Yamaha was more reliable and could be made bulletproof since it had the same GPR1200 motor popular in the speed record breaking community.
Both models are rarity today.
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Made Bullet Proof, You got to be kidding. I guess you never dropped a power valve in a gpr. They are good motors but had issues too. Not to mention the Crank snouts breaking off.

Gerry, keep looking for a Yamaha.
 
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KC
wydopen said:
i wouldnt trade my SUV for anything...
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Like I said, I have never been on an SUV. But the LRV is the closest thing to it, size-wise, and it's the most boring PWC I've ever ridden. (And keep in mind, I've got a WaveJammer, so that's saying something!) My B-I-L's family like it because they do a lot of waterskiing behind it, which I can dig, but man, I've taken it out solo a couple of times, and I'm so bored after about 3 minutes that I usually bring it back pretty quickly. Actually, I just don't bother riding it anymore.

The only good thing I will say for the LRV is that it makes a nice transport boat. It's a nice way to get yourself and your stuff over to the other side of a big lake pretty comfortably at 50 MPH, even through a heavy chop. Although, that's not what most people want out of a PWC, and a bigger "real" boat would be even dryer and roomier...
 
wydopen

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afcblink said:
Like I said, I have never been on an SUV. But the LRV is the closest thing to it, size-wise, and it's the most boring PWC I've ever ridden. (And keep in mind, I've got a WaveJammer, so that's saying something!) My B-I-L's family like it because they do a lot of waterskiing behind it, which I can dig, but man, I've taken it out solo a couple of times, and I'm so bored after about 3 minutes that I usually bring it back pretty quickly. Actually, I just don't bother riding it anymore.

The only good thing I will say for the LRV is that it makes a nice transport boat. It's a nice way to get yourself and your stuff over to the other side of a big lake pretty comfortably at 50 MPH, even through a heavy chop. Although, that's not what most people want out of a PWC, and a bigger "real" boat would be even dryer and roomier...
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i use mine for tow surfing and hauling a bunch of gear/going long distances in the ocean...a couch is boring in a lake no matter what the size..i need something big and stable...


btw its a non pv 1200 motor
 
vitaly

vitaly

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QuickMick said:
Made Bullet Proof, You got to be kidding. I guess you never dropped a power valve in a gpr. They are good motors but had issues too. Not to mention the Crank snouts breaking off.

Gerry, keep looking for a Yamaha.
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waveeater's clips should be the first mod
 
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