SJ Vs Octane.

[FullTHROTLE92]

So I convinced My buddy out here in puerto rico to buy a SJ
SO we went out yesterday
I road my Octane
and him on SJ
I rode his SJ
and It handled bad in my Opiniun I think my octane handles alottt bettter.
But idk maybe thats just me
what you guys think?
No hate please on the octane. :beerchug:

 

[Frosty]

the octane is bigger and heavier... more like a kawi. it was designed for the race course. The superjet is smaller, lighter and more nible - to get on one after riding an octane will feel much harder to ride.

the superjet in stock form is (IMO) under powered too, so it makes it even harder to ride than a modded superjet. the octane comes with many of the after market parts a superjet needs.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Funny you mention that. I'm in the middle of working on a jet-boat right now and when I went out to buy some parts I asked the guy at the dealer if he ever gets any stand-ups traded in. He said very rarely, the last one he had in there was a SJ. I asked him if he tried it and how did he like it. He told me he used to own a fleet of Kawis and used to rent them plus race his own. He went out on that SJ and said it was def. not like a Kawi and didn't like it either. I'm not knocking the SJ because I haven't tried one, so for all I know it could suit me well but it does seem like a lot of guys that start out on Kawis tend to stick with them.

 

[Frosty]

yeah, i started in a SJ, so i have a hard time getting comfortable on a larger hull. Three of my buddies ride SXR's and cannot ride the superjet as well.

One of my buddies made the switch from kawi to a superjet and it took him an entire summer to get comfy on it.

 

[Shonuff]

I love my kawis but at the Smith Lake ride, Gil and Steeldogg could ride their SuperJets up to this abandoned No Wake Zone buoy, blip the throttle, and hop right the hell over it.
The SX-Rs and Octanes can't do that.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

+1

My SX weighs a lot compared to the JS300 I started out on. I could fly that 300 easily twice the height I can this one. I'm hoping all the mod work I've done to it will give it the power to make it feel like the old 300 at least. If the SJ have that same ultra light feeling to the hull then I would be right at home on one.

 

[Shadow7874]

I just got a fx-1 and ive only rode a 550 so far. After reading threads like this im curious as to how i will like it. The 550 is fun, but needs more power. Im a fairly small guy so the fx should be nice. I would like to try a sxr and SJ though.

 

[SUPERJET-113]

First do a fair test....
Put the parts that the Octane has on it on the SJ(quick steer, B pipe, etc), then do a test!

You cant compare a Sj to a octane when the Octane costs way more $$ and comes with all the aftermarket parts that give it more power and handling. Not even a fair comparison....

No hate please on the Superjet :beerchug:

 

[Waternut]

You cant compare a Sj to a octane when the Octane costs way more $$ and comes with all the aftermarket parts that give it more power and handling. Not even a fair comparison....

I think this is the biggest factor in everyone's biased opinions. Let's recap on 99% of the cases that are posted here (including some of mine in the past)... Guy A has modified his ski with thousands of dollars and loves it. Guy B has a different ski with minimal mods. Guy A rides Guy B's ski and it feels like a dog compared to his... Now both Guy A and Guy B think that Guy A's ski is awesome and Guy B's ski will forever be a POS and he'll never buy another mod for it until the day he sells it, gets the same ski as Guy A, and sinks thousands of dollars into.

When you have mod for mod ski's, then you can make a very educated decision on which ski is better. With a factory pipe, total loss, good prop, porting, similar handling mods... You're only going to be looking at minimal differences and those minor things should be what sells you on one over the other.

 

[DC SUPERJET]

Funny you mention that. I'm in the middle of working on a jet-boat right now and when I went out to buy some parts I asked the guy at the dealer if he ever gets any stand-ups traded in. He said very rarely, the last one he had in there was a SJ. I asked him if he tried it and how did he like it. He told me he used to own a fleet of Kawis and used to rent them plus race his own. He went out on that SJ and said it was def. not like a Kawi and didn't like it either. I'm not knocking the SJ because I haven't tried one, so for all I know it could suit me well but it does seem like a lot of guys that start out on Kawis tend to stick with them.

I'm a kawi to sj convert. Started with an sxi pro, wanted to be able to actually move the ski around and enjoy bottom end power, so I read a bunch of threads on this site, and bought a superjet. Yamaha should actually owe the X on comission for all the superjets they sell.

And I don't know anything about octanes? They come with a b-pipe? That is awesome!

 

[Foximus]

Im a Kawi to Superjet to Kawi convert.


But then again I have more superjet parts on my 550 than kawi parts.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

I'm a kawi to sj convert. Started with an sxi pro, wanted to be able to actually move the ski around and enjoy bottom end power, so I read a bunch of threads on this site, and bought a superjet. Yamaha should actually owe the X on comission for all the superjets they sell.

And I don't know anything about octanes? They come with a b-pipe? That is awesome!

Agreed, it's because of the X that I want to try a SJ. I have been keeping my eyes open for that very rare time when one pops up for sale around here. I think I would buy it anyway with or without trying one just to have and form my own educated opinion. I totally stand behind you jfw432 and all other Kawi and SJ guys...a ski can't be discredited until equal modding is done and one proves to be better than the other. After the mods it really all comes down to hull design and rider capability. But I'll tell ya, for how light and nimble you guys describe the SJs to be, I really want to get my hands one. I'll bet that after getting out on one I'll be a convert too :biggthumpup:

 

[vitalikol]

It's really doesn't matter what you ride. If you like it the way it is - you there , where you need to be !!!
I started on Kawi ,had 750 SX and 96 Superjet at the same time, but always prefer to ride Kawi. Now I got 06 SXR and love it. Wish it's little bit lighter. The way I ride - it's enougf for me in any way. And woudn't trade it for anything else ( exept Trinity SXR hull and ,maybe, Matrix,but I didn't tryed it )

 

[steve-uk]

Agreed, it's because of the X that I want to try a SJ. I have been keeping my eyes open for that very rare time when one pops up for sale around here. I think I would buy it anyway with or without trying one just to have and form my own educated opinion. I totally stand behind you jfw432 and all other Kawi and SJ guys...a ski can't be discredited until equal modding is done and one proves to be better than the other. After the mods it really all comes down to hull design and rider capability. But I'll tell ya, for how light and nimble you guys describe the SJs to be, I really want to get my hands one. I'll bet that after getting out on one I'll be a convert too :biggthumpup:

sjet in strathroy has one for sale in the for sale forum

 

[FullTHROTLE92]

I think this is the biggest factor in everyone's biased opinions. Let's recap on 99% of the cases that are posted here (including some of mine in the past)... Guy A has modified his ski with thousands of dollars and loves it. Guy B has a different ski with minimal mods. Guy A rides Guy B's ski and it feels like a dog compared to his... Now both Guy A and Guy B think that Guy A's ski is awesome and Guy B's ski will forever be a POS and he'll never buy another mod for it until the day he sells it, gets the same ski as Guy A, and sinks thousands of dollars into.

When you have mod for mod ski's, then you can make a very educated decision on which ski is better. With a factory pipe, total loss, good prop, porting, similar handling mods... You're only going to be looking at minimal differences and those minor things should be what sells you on one over the other.

I agree 95% the one thing is though my octane is only stock
and i got mine for 4000.
But i understand what you mean
good comparison
i was just saying what i felt
idk
maybe all get a sj some day
i want a lightwieght octane hull from Highrollers customs.

 

[Wolf Child]

I love my kawis but at the Smith Lake ride, Gil and Steeldogg could ride their SuperJets up to this abandoned No Wake Zone buoy, blip the throttle, and hop right the hell over it.
The SX-Rs and Octanes can't do that.

WHAT!?!?

maaaaan. you crazy. I've done it a buch of times

 

[Jawbreaker]

I started out on a 650 and even competed in a couple "sickest trick" contests with it
then bought a 750
found a fast 550 and added that to the fleet.
I liked the 750 the most outta the 3 mainly because it had hood holds, footholds, decent power, and handled better...
I wanted to compete, and didn't see anyone on the older skis in freestyle. They just didn't compare, so I decided to go with the Octane because that's what I saw our world champ on... I thought the octane was the best for the money with the parts that it came with... It would have cost me more to buy those parts and put em on a stock superjet... so I thought. I should have bought a good used SuperJet
I sank a lotta cash into the octane and I finally figured out that the super jet was the best freestyle ski for my situation and budget...
The bottom line for me was my budget... Octane aftermarket parts are just harder to come buy and cost more... You can build a Freestyle SuperJet for less money and it's cheaper to get a better power to weight ratio with the Superjet. imo
I love my Octane... It's one hell of a ski! ...but as far as freestyle goes, the superjet is the way to go unless you have an unlimited budget...
In hind sight, I think it may have been better for me to just spend less money on my engine, and put the extra cash in a lighter AM hull.

 

[STEELDOGG]

I love my kawis but at the Smith Lake ride, Gil and Steeldogg could ride their SuperJets up to this abandoned No Wake Zone buoy, blip the throttle, and hop right the hell over it.
The SX-Rs and Octanes can't do that.

:headbang:

That particular no boat bout is actually only a suggestion- it's just for other people-they didn't really mean us.:lmao:

 

[SUPERJET-113]

I agree 95% the one thing is though my octane is only stock

Ugh.. I dont think you get it bro...

Someone please explain to this guy about all the aftermarket parts that come on a Octane "stock"....

 

[MADMAT]

I started out on a 650 and even competed in a couple "sickest trick" contests with it
then bought a 750
found a fast 550 and added that to the fleet.
I liked the 750 the most outta the 3 mainly because it had hood holds, footholds, decent power, and handled better...
I wanted to compete, and didn't see anyone on the older skis in freestyle. They just didn't compare, so I decided to go with the Octane because that's what I saw our world champ on... I thought the octane was the best for the money with the parts that it came with... It would have cost me more to buy those parts and put em on a stock superjet... so I thought. I should have bought a good used SuperJet
I sank a lotta cash into the octane and I finally figured out that the super jet was the best freestyle ski for my situation and budget...
The bottom line for me was my budget... Octane aftermarket parts are just harder to come buy and cost more... You can build a Freestyle SuperJet for less money and it's cheaper to get a better power to weight ratio with the Superjet. imo
I love my Octane... It's one hell of a ski! ...but as far as freestyle goes, the superjet is the way to go unless you have an unlimited budget...
In hind sight, I think it may have been better for me to just spend less money on my engine, and put the extra cash in a lighter AM hull.

That should be a sticky.