Stock SJ ignition curve

[norcal ex]

What is the stock SJ ignition curve and what is the MSD enhancer ignition curve. been searching MSD, PWCtoday, and of course, THE X with no success....

 

[RMBC Freeride]

might check with wax, I think he has both mapped???

 

[robertg]

 

[SUPERJET-113]

To be honest, I didnt really notice any difference switching from a OEM Pro-tec modified(rev limiter)CDI to a Enhancer CDI.

 

[sjetrider]

I am sold and I own one already

 

[sjetrider]

To be honest, I didnt really notice any difference switching from a Pro-tec modified(rev limiter) to a Enhancer.

I had a Riva billet flywheel and enhancer on ported 701 w/ bpipe and twin 44's. I removed the flywheel and replaced w/ stocker and replaced Enhancer w/ modded stock CDI. HUGE difference. Not sure if it was flywheel or Enhancer or combo or what.

 

[norcal ex]

i already have a MSD enhancer and am programming my vilder

 

[Matt_E]

I had a Riva billet flywheel and enhancer on ported 701 w/ bpipe and twin 44's. I removed the flywheel and replaced w/ stocker and replaced Enhancer w/ modded stock CDI. HUGE difference. Not sure if it was flywheel or Enhancer or combo or what.

That was 95% flywheel, 3% imagination, and 2% Enhancer. :haha:

Seriously though, the vast majority of that perceived difference came from the Flywheel.

 

[Crab]

If the graph is correct, it would leave me to believe the Kawi ignitions are way conservative, and can easily be bumped 3-4 degrees.

 

[SUPERTUNE]

This is one of the reasons the Enhancer is just a so, so CDI! Just look at what you get from this curve graph... shows about 22 degrees when timing comes to full advance at 1700-1800 RPM's and starts the retard at about 4000 RPM's (not very defined) and then ONLY gives you 2 maybe 3 degrees of retard! This is what hurts the performance of the Enhancer. (They should have made it like 7-8 degrees and would have been a 'STAR' CDI replacement!) MSD TL and Vilders CDI's can be programmed with a lot more curve and retard rate to really be able to run a LOT of compression for freestyle engines on pump gas which ='s a lot more HP especially right off idle!

P.S I'm referring to the Superjet CDI's.

 

[Matt_E]

Yup....Chuckie knows what he's talking about. :biggthumpup:

That's the great thing about full programmability - I can run purdy good compression on pumpgas, and get nice bottom end in part due to hefty advance on the bottom. I take it away on top, and can ride WOT all day long.

 

[douglee25]

This is one of the reasons the inhancer is just a so, so CDI! Just look at what you get from this curve graph... shows about 22 degrees when timing comes to full advance at 1700-1800 RPM's and starts the retard at about 4000 RPM's (not very defined) and then ONLY gives you 2 maybe 3 degrees of retard! This is what hurts the performance of the inhancer. (They should have made it like 7-8 degrees and would have been a 'STAR' CDI replacement!) MSD TL and Vilders CDI's can be programmed with a lot more curve and retard rate to really be able to run a LOT of compression for freestlye engines on pump gas which ='s a lot more HP especially right off idle!

P.S I'm referring to the Superjet CDI's.

Just what we spoke about yesterday Chuck! :biggthumpup:

Doug

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

as a cheaper alternative, you could dial in alot of advance by moving your stator plate, and then limit the throttle openeing to about 60%.

haha

 

[Idok]

That was 95% flywheel, 3% imagination, and 2% Enhancer. :haha:

Seriously though, the vast majority of that perceived difference came from the Flywheel.

yup.....I actually prefer the feel of a T wheel.....I dont like the immediate braking effect the lighter flywheels have..


i notice that my boat feels a little stronger with the MSD E.....but hey, at least it looks cool :biggrin: