Custom/Hybrid When will there be a hull everyone can afford?

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
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Rentz, GA
Yes, that most certainly is different from the Stunt and a very good start. I was always impressed with Nick's work so the molds should be pretty decent quality as well.
 

SXIPro

JM781 Big Bore
I'd bet a whole lot of folks would be fine sticking with an SJ hull. It seems like everyone is looking for a quick fix to pull off bigger tricks instead of working on skill and technique.
 
Yes, that most certainly is different from the Stunt and a very good start. I was always impressed with Nick's work so the molds should be pretty decent quality as well.

My thoughts exactly. This is what made it look so appealing to me. Even if I have a grand in shipping it's all there and all the r&d is pretty much done as far as design goes. With the help of our expert I'm pretty confident we can pull off 2 hulls for ourselves. I'm curious to see how much we have in materials to build a glass version.
 

wydopen

onthepipe
I'd bet a whole lot of folks would be fine sticking with an SJ hull. It seems like everyone is looking for a quick fix to pull off bigger tricks instead of working on skill and technique.

exactaly...the majority of riders cant ride their superjets close to its potential....why they need a 8k hull is beyond me..
 

98gti

C@R H@ul3R
Location
NW FL
Just curious, how much money is actually put into building a A/M hull like a Superfreak or a BOB? Im not stirring the pot, im just wondering.
 
Location
Ohio
My hull/hood/pole/bracket/shoe/ride plate/beautifully installed footholds/1 way valve was 5500=650 crate/ship.....I think that was very fair and I love it. Would 4500 or 3500 have been better!? Sure!

I already had a kick arse drivetrain from my destroyed hull (Daytona 08??) and for me it only made sense to go aftermarket.....
 
I can get resin, all the vac bagging consumables, gel coat and matting for about 700.00 for what should be enough to do it. (This is a guess on the amount of mat that will be used.). This is taking into consideration different types of material for strength. I would definitely be doing test layups first so I know what to where and how.
 

98gti

C@R H@ul3R
Location
NW FL
Yeah but I want to know what it costs guys who are selling them and buying the supplies in mass quantities. Im just curious about what goes into these things, and how many hours go into them.
 

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
Location
Rentz, GA
Resin and adhesives have a shelf life and cloth is expensive so there is a lot less bulk buying going on than you would think.

Even if material is half the cost, figure in the time, material invested to developing the molds.
 
Wanna talk expensive, look at the cost of prepreg! Even if I only end up with a hull for myself it's still a great learning experience and will be satisfying to know I did it myself.
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
Do it. Track it ALL. See what you come up with. I'd be very curious.

I would think mold the seller would give you some hints on thicknesses in critical areas since he already has experience.

If the mold thing doesn't work out, call up some builders and see what they would charge you for a top, bottom deck, bulkhead, hood, liner etc popped out of their molds. No finish work. There is your builder kit right there. If I had most of the money for an A/M, this would be what I'd be looking for.
 
Location
Pa
that was a nice looking ski made from those molds, just do it, it will be fun and at the end of it you can say, hopefully, that yeah i made this ski. and if it works out im sure there would be demand for that hull. i wouldnt mind a project like that.
 

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
Location
Rentz, GA
If the mold thing doesn't work out, call up some builders and see what they would charge you for a top, bottom deck, bulkhead, hood, liner etc popped out of their molds. No finish work. There is your builder kit right there. If I had most of the money for an A/M, this would be what I'd be looking for.

I am pretty sure that Tem will do this already for the Superfreak. Not sure if he will do it for current versions too but it wasn't too long ago he was selling top decks and conversion parts bit by bit.

Not quite the same satisfaction as building your own hull up from the mold though. If I ever had the time I would love to go down and work with Bobby to do the layup on my own Trintiy Matrix Pro.
 
Location
dfw
Just curious, how much money is actually put into building a A/M hull like a Superfreak or a BOB? Im not stirring the pot, im just wondering.

There is good margin but low volume. You are paying a lot for the basic assembly of the hull after its out of the mould. I would like to buy the parts (assuming high quality) and trim/fit/assemble the hull myself because I will do a better job than ANYONE trying to make a buck. I would hate to be the person selling such a basic kit to kids with no composite skills. Very few would turn out well.
 

KTM434

Jamie FN Hickey
Location
Palm Coast FL
If you want to buy a cheap aftermarket hull, buy a used BOB or REV hull. If you want to make an aftermarket hull that is cheap and performs as well or better than what's out there then I suggest you ride a lot of aftermarket hulls and do your homework first to see what works and what doesn't. It's good that you have a knowledgable friend/family member to help you out but it sounds like he only knows how to work with fiberglass and carbon fiber... That doesn't mean he knows how to build a great performing aftermarket jetski hull that is lightweight, strong, and very nimble yet still remain very stable. You should do q lot of homework before jumping onto this. It will not be cheap for you no matter what because people will not buy an aftermarket hull that isn't proven to outperform other hulls. You will invest a lot of money building hulls and either giving a couple away for free or setting up as a demo ski before you net any financial return at all. I hope you have a lot of disposable income and can afford a failed investment just in case things don't work out.
 
If you want to buy a cheap aftermarket hull, buy a used BOB or REV hull. If you want to make an aftermarket hull that is cheap and performs as well or better than what's out there then I suggest you ride a lot of aftermarket hulls and do your homework first to see what works and what doesn't. It's good that you have a knowledgable friend/family member to help you out but it sounds like he only knows how to work with fiberglass and carbon fiber... That doesn't mean he knows how to build a great performing aftermarket jetski hull that is lightweight, strong, and very nimble yet still remain very stable. You should do q lot of homework before jumping onto this. It will not be cheap for you no matter what because people will not buy an aftermarket hull that isn't proven to outperform other hulls. You will invest a lot of money building hulls and either giving a couple away for free or setting up as a demo ski before you net any financial return at all. I hope you have a lot of disposable income and can afford a failed investment just in case things don't work out.

Im not worried about the money, Bottom line is I really like his design and would love to own this hull. In the end if we successfully build 2 for ourselves I will be happy. The idea of building a demo and going to every event is very appealing too.
 
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