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What to do with my tray? first post
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What about the front hump? small or large?
FAstfairlane, how cool you knew what you want, looks great!
Anybody have a link for the drain plug thing?
Shockwave educated me the "kicker" is made by jetrim and sold by prowatercraft in my link. I see the wedge in his link is less dramatic and probably more appropriate for my skill level.
I want to spend money on my baby and I think turf is all it needs. It almost seems unfair that I could dig this thing out of storage, clean the carb, paste on a huge sticker and it appeals to the young. Here is a pic of kid whose dad just mortgaged his future for a 2020 Seadoo that can rip your face off, but he likes my ride better.
Riding switch appears a reasonable goal for me. Here is a minute of me practicing. (I am naturally goofy)
FAstfairlane, how cool you knew what you want, looks great!
Anybody have a link for the drain plug thing?
Shockwave educated me the "kicker" is made by jetrim and sold by prowatercraft in my link. I see the wedge in his link is less dramatic and probably more appropriate for my skill level.
I want to spend money on my baby and I think turf is all it needs. It almost seems unfair that I could dig this thing out of storage, clean the carb, paste on a huge sticker and it appeals to the young. Here is a pic of kid whose dad just mortgaged his future for a 2020 Seadoo that can rip your face off, but he likes my ride better.
Riding switch appears a reasonable goal for me. Here is a minute of me practicing. (I am naturally goofy)
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- Lake Anna, VA
That “Sea-Doo” is actually a square nose Superjet. I think Pro Watercraft makes the tray extension, same material as their other items. JetTrim sells them and makes other foam kickers.
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- Lake Anna, VA
Not sure what you mean for front hump. JetTrim sells a foam one, is that it? Think that’s only for racing, and I believe it’s not highly common. You’ll learn better what kind of mods you’ll want to do as you ride more. You’ll have things you prefer to do more (carve, tricks, etc) and then pick the things that will improve that. Wider trays help practically everyone. Footholds/slots/straps for freestyle mostly. Extensions/kickers/wedges more for carving/racing.
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- Lake Anna, VA
Not sure what you mean for front hump. JetTrim sells a foam one, is that it? Think that’s only for racing. You’ll learn better what kind of mods you’ll want to do as you ride more. You’ll have things you prefer to do more (carve, tricks, etc) and then pick the things that will improve that. Wider trays help practically everyone. Footholds/slots/straps for freestyle mostly. Extensions/kickers/wedges more for carving/racing.
Edit: the front hump helps keep your foot planted sideways when you’re carving harder.
Edit: the front hump helps keep your foot planted sideways when you’re carving harder.
Just ride more. I love it because I enjoy practicing skills. I bet all of us stand up riders share this.
I guess I am looking at what to add when I re-turf. I am eager to put every high tech thing from the internet on the ski so I appreciate the feedback that holds me back from buying stuff that is too specialized.
My background is snow skiing. I see many people who buy the “best” boot which is too stiff for them. All the practice in the world only makes them worse skiers.
I am taking note of the comment: everyone enjoys a wider tray. This makes it the only mod I am confident of doing so far.
The last few sessions revealed I like working towards hard carving and riding switch. I am a bit hesitant about tricks like the back flip.
Here is a video of a back flip in my more age appropriate toy.
I guess I am looking at what to add when I re-turf. I am eager to put every high tech thing from the internet on the ski so I appreciate the feedback that holds me back from buying stuff that is too specialized.
My background is snow skiing. I see many people who buy the “best” boot which is too stiff for them. All the practice in the world only makes them worse skiers.
I am taking note of the comment: everyone enjoys a wider tray. This makes it the only mod I am confident of doing so far.
The last few sessions revealed I like working towards hard carving and riding switch. I am a bit hesitant about tricks like the back flip.
Here is a video of a back flip in my more age appropriate toy.
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- Asheville, NC
I want to say that widening the tray is not going to hurt anything but it will take a lot more effort than just re-turfing the ski. Also, not to further complicate things but if your ski is completely stock, it might be worth looking into an impeller upgrade. The first time I rode a modified ski it felt easier to stay up on and made cornering more enjoyable because the ski had more "power" to pull me up out of a corner. I've heard stock Yamaha props are nothing to write home about! A good Skat or Hooker impeller makes a great difference but that has nothing to do with turf haha
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- Lake Anna, VA
Agreed. Footholds is some work, reforming tray is a lot of work (though your ski almost surely needs it so do it this winter), and widening is all that plus a little. If you’re planning on returfing now regardless, then get the rear kicker and maybe front hump. Anything is better than worn stock mats.
Was only discussing tray stuff because of your original questions, but you would probably do well from some other mods. Definitely an impeller, Hooker 9/15 might get the best pull out of your 650. Dump the stock bars for some longer 0° or 4° from ADA or Blowsion. Intake grate and front sponsons, but that’s more $$. Or just find a decent 62t engine, more power makes for easier riding.
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Nick: Basically, this suggestion builds upon braaperdoodle's suggestion above. I am going to suggest that you buy a 2020 Super Jet or a stock, lightly used 2008+ Super Jet. Especially if your '91 SN SJ has a 650 (633cc) engine in it. Others who own the 2008+ bottom hull style can confirm it for you, but I believe that the 2008+ hull is more refined and more targeted towards carving than the up to 2008+ SJ bottom hull. Also the 62t 701cc engine in the 1996+ skis will have more power to match the performance of that hull.
And yes, it looks like your 650 was modified. I just replaced the 650 (633cc) 6m6 engine in our '95 SN SJ with a 61x 701cc (which is the engine type and size which Yamaha originally would have installed at the factory). It has more power throughout the throttle than the unmodified 650 it had in it. It cost $700 to upgrade without the little extra things like a new flywheel cover to delete the oil pump from the 1996 Yamaha sit down ski it came out of.
The dual carb 62t 701cc which was put in SJ's from 1996+ has even more power, especially mid to full speed. It is what Yamaha put in the 2008+ bottom hull.
I have been told that the 2008+ Super Jet is likely the best all around jet ski ever made.
Since you are a pilot and since you are a snow skier, you will appreciate the years of refinement which Yamaha made to the 2008+ round nose SJ. An analogy, yes, you can still ski on old school straight skis, but the "new school" parabolic skis are going to carve much easier while also doing most anything that the old school straight skis did.
New turf, maybe. But I re-read your initial post and I cannot discern what you believe a wider tray will gain you. I have size 13 feet and both narrow trays of the 550sx, FX-1 and the infinitely wider tray of the '94 SJ are wide enough for my feet including putting the rear foot cross-ways at the tail of the tray to vary the heel/toe pressure during a carving turn.
A wider hull is different than a wider tray. I like riding our X2 because the hull is wider, in fact I would like to lay up a standup with the X2 bottom hull sometime. But the SJ tray is wide enough for my feet for the width of that hull.
And yes, it looks like your 650 was modified. I just replaced the 650 (633cc) 6m6 engine in our '95 SN SJ with a 61x 701cc (which is the engine type and size which Yamaha originally would have installed at the factory). It has more power throughout the throttle than the unmodified 650 it had in it. It cost $700 to upgrade without the little extra things like a new flywheel cover to delete the oil pump from the 1996 Yamaha sit down ski it came out of.
The dual carb 62t 701cc which was put in SJ's from 1996+ has even more power, especially mid to full speed. It is what Yamaha put in the 2008+ bottom hull.
I have been told that the 2008+ Super Jet is likely the best all around jet ski ever made.
Since you are a pilot and since you are a snow skier, you will appreciate the years of refinement which Yamaha made to the 2008+ round nose SJ. An analogy, yes, you can still ski on old school straight skis, but the "new school" parabolic skis are going to carve much easier while also doing most anything that the old school straight skis did.
New turf, maybe. But I re-read your initial post and I cannot discern what you believe a wider tray will gain you. I have size 13 feet and both narrow trays of the 550sx, FX-1 and the infinitely wider tray of the '94 SJ are wide enough for my feet including putting the rear foot cross-ways at the tail of the tray to vary the heel/toe pressure during a carving turn.
A wider hull is different than a wider tray. I like riding our X2 because the hull is wider, in fact I would like to lay up a standup with the X2 bottom hull sometime. But the SJ tray is wide enough for my feet for the width of that hull.
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Is the 2008 Tahoe legal? I live a quarter mile from the boat ramp so the deeper question has always been should I buy a new one that is Tahoe legal. I hope to get to the point I can start a thread: best Tahoe legal, but I am still working though the question is this even still fun at my age?
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If you want Tahoe legal, hustle over and buy this direct injection 2-stroke ski:
http://x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/...al-stand-up-jetski-jet-ski-16000-reno.199564/
You can likely also buy the Kawasaki SX-R 1500 4-stroke and the soon to be released Yamaha 4-stroke.
But I fear that it will be like going from your home built trick airplane to a Boeing 737. Yes, you can probably barrel roll them, but they are likely not really made for it.
And yes, it is fun at your or our age. Why? Because the only thing that keeps men alive after a certain age is good physical conditioning. And I have never been good at going to the gym. I was always in shape because of sport. But my wife and I stopped white water kayaking around ~2010, so my upper body has been falling apart. Jet skiing 3-4 days a week is slowly bringing it back. Make yourself do it. Pretend you are going to the gym. (That is what my wife calls water skiing with wind chop or tide rolls.)
There is nothing better than a hot day ~100F+ and being wet. (Although, a powder day at Kirkwood is just as good for Winter time fun.) Be gentle with your body, but get out and ski. Both physical conditioning and the satisfaction of achievement will come the more you ski. You will not ski alone for long.
Unless you are riding Tahoe. I never see anyone riding Tahoe. And once the glass disappears in the early morning, I wouldn't want to ride Tahoe anyway. (It was so windy on the Sacramento River yesterday after work that it wasn't fun. But I needed "to go to the gym," so my body thanks me for it today.) The other sport you could add to the mix is windsurfing or kite boarding at Washoe Lake.
Edit: And oh yeah, I forgot about the ice cream headaches that the cold water in Lake Tahoe give you even on the hottest days. Personally, I have no interest in jet skiing on Lake Tahoe. . .
http://x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/...al-stand-up-jetski-jet-ski-16000-reno.199564/
You can likely also buy the Kawasaki SX-R 1500 4-stroke and the soon to be released Yamaha 4-stroke.
But I fear that it will be like going from your home built trick airplane to a Boeing 737. Yes, you can probably barrel roll them, but they are likely not really made for it.
And yes, it is fun at your or our age. Why? Because the only thing that keeps men alive after a certain age is good physical conditioning. And I have never been good at going to the gym. I was always in shape because of sport. But my wife and I stopped white water kayaking around ~2010, so my upper body has been falling apart. Jet skiing 3-4 days a week is slowly bringing it back. Make yourself do it. Pretend you are going to the gym. (That is what my wife calls water skiing with wind chop or tide rolls.)
There is nothing better than a hot day ~100F+ and being wet. (Although, a powder day at Kirkwood is just as good for Winter time fun.) Be gentle with your body, but get out and ski. Both physical conditioning and the satisfaction of achievement will come the more you ski. You will not ski alone for long.
Unless you are riding Tahoe. I never see anyone riding Tahoe. And once the glass disappears in the early morning, I wouldn't want to ride Tahoe anyway. (It was so windy on the Sacramento River yesterday after work that it wasn't fun. But I needed "to go to the gym," so my body thanks me for it today.) The other sport you could add to the mix is windsurfing or kite boarding at Washoe Lake.
Edit: And oh yeah, I forgot about the ice cream headaches that the cold water in Lake Tahoe give you even on the hottest days. Personally, I have no interest in jet skiing on Lake Tahoe. . .
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Buying a Tahoe legal stand up is not a deeper question, but the one thing I haven't been able to say out loud. The superjet got caught in my “use it or loose it” house cleaning of a lifetime of resort toys. If this results in me owning two skis instead of getting rid of the one not used in twenty years there will be hell to pay. Good thing I am a little devil.
Tahoe with big waves is how I remember epic Tahoe conditions. Cold, but fun. I couldn't use the ramp with the rough conditions, so my wife and I lifted it on the trailer after driving up on the beach. This experience makes me wary of how heavy the new ones are.
I have seen this injected Kawi! They didn't stop him launching so I had to go talk to him. That was a while ago.
Tahoe with big waves is how I remember epic Tahoe conditions. Cold, but fun. I couldn't use the ramp with the rough conditions, so my wife and I lifted it on the trailer after driving up on the beach. This experience makes me wary of how heavy the new ones are.
I have seen this injected Kawi! They didn't stop him launching so I had to go talk to him. That was a while ago.
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- Lake Anna, VA
Most guys go with wrestling shoes. ASICS seems to be a favorite brand. I was using some Chuck Taylors, worked fine but doesn’t last terribly long. I ride barefoot now that I have JetTrim, good traction and very comfortable. Don’t waste your time with any water shoes unless they’re meant for skiing, like Jet Tribe or Jet Pilot.
Actually I do wear shoes in the colder months. 7mm fleece lined neoprene with a thick rubber sole. Works well.
Actually I do wear shoes in the colder months. 7mm fleece lined neoprene with a thick rubber sole. Works well.
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- Lake Anna, VA
You can on Hydroturf too but it’s not quite as good. The stock mats suck, whether worn or in good shape. When you learn to ride well and start really getting into it, they might as well be covered in algae.
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- California
I have seen people break toes riding with no shoes. I have been riding with Slippery When Wet shoes since the 90's and can't imagine riding without them but that's just me.
I bought a pair of the Slippery Liquid Race Boots about 3 years ago and have been really happy with them.
I bought a pair of the Slippery Liquid Race Boots about 3 years ago and have been really happy with them.
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mikidymac thank you for posting about the Slippery Liquid Race Boots. I just ordered the race boot from Jet Pilot Australia. They are too large so I am sending them back. And I am not that impressed with them for their price. So, I am going to order the Slippery Liquid Race Boots which look very good online.
As far as riding barefoot. I cut the tendon under my big toe on a piece of glass walking barefoot down a mountain stream when I was a teenager. It just means that I cannot pickup a pencil with that foot. But I have been a big fan of shoes even in waters/beaches ever since.
As far as riding barefoot. I cut the tendon under my big toe on a piece of glass walking barefoot down a mountain stream when I was a teenager. It just means that I cannot pickup a pencil with that foot. But I have been a big fan of shoes even in waters/beaches ever since.