Rickster
Matakana Menace
- Location
- Bay of Plenty, NZ
That's a pretty big call...:cool2:
Waterdawg parts with fast shipment
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That's a pretty big call...:cool2:
Rickster
Matakana Menace
- Location
- Bay of Plenty, NZ
I guess we have to define game. Are we talking hull builders, engine builders, complete packages?:dunno:
Everything Waterdawg does, someone else does alos, except building 1200cc engines. But don't you think that is because nobody else wants to put the time and money into 1200cc engines when you can't compete with them on the flat, and don't need them in the salt.:dunno:
Just throwing it out there...
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I'm taking about all around mad skills!! He designed/built a 1200 (complete ski none the less!!!) for whatever reason. He could design/build ANYTHING he wants and I assume anything we want.
I have no idea why he chose the 1200 but why is that a bad thing for salt and or flatwater and or freeride?
I have no idea why he chose the 1200 but why is that a bad thing for salt and or flatwater and or freeride?
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Freestyleriverrat
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Hulls, engines, handle poles, brackets, bottom deck designs and a few other tricks on the way :woot:
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Freestyleriverrat
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:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: OMG is that a positive statement about WD :eek2: I think you are right on target man :biggthumpup:
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I have to give him credit for doing the 1200. I think we don't see a lot of them out there because most people are working with currently available parts instead of manufacturing their own (like exhausts, etc).
Now that the ADA989 is out there, I am quite certain we will begin to see 1000+cc motors showing up over the next few months.
Even if you can't compete with them, there are plenty of people out there willing to cough up the dough to own one because the power is just insanely fun.
I can't even imagine! I think my tweaked 701 hits hard let alone 1000 or 1200cc!:hail:
Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
Jeff supposedly has a conversion kit to mount the 1200 into a Superjet, so it can be used for competition (I'm not sure about which classes though).
Jeff also makes the F1-Pro hull that nobody else makes. And the X-Jet. And his 6 gallon gas tank (which I know a lot of people are going smaller on, but I myself would love to go bigger on a gas tank, refilling sucks). His own pipe and intake manifolds. That's actually a lot of unique stuff :smile:
that is so long as there no competition, you mix a great product with a great price
good bye high price competitors
unfortunaltely blowsion etc will not be able to make a living just sponsoring people sure they will make sales but not to a majority of people
it is the wayof the business world
see home depot, best buy, wal- mart
they are sinking all of the high price competiton
that is all assuming water dawg can keep delivering
and i for one hope he can
SKYWALKER
X-
- Location
- Hutchinson,KS
Nice hood kit cycleguy. Now all you need is the 1200!!!!
Rickster
Matakana Menace
- Location
- Bay of Plenty, NZ
I have to give him credit also, but I also beleive that Lamey could put out a 1200 engine in a heart beat based on a 800 platform. Why don't they, I beleive it's because you cannot compete with them and that kind of power is not required in the surf.
I disagree, but time will tell.:biggthumpup:
Once again, I am not questioning his ability to make cool parts, but I do have issues with a broad statement about 'nobody being in the same league as him'. IF he can deliver parts to customers for the next year, then I would put him in the same group as WF, Lehr, xft, team scream, x-metal, FPP, blowsion, wamiltons, etc.
You mean big 2, 24/7 is essentially gone and has been for a while.
Things are different now too.
Blowsion, Wamilton, Watercraft Factory, XFT, Waterdawg, Air Time Products.
SkiNaked
Stand up or Shut up!
- Location
- Vancouver Washington
You are absolutly wrong!!! 99% of the watercraft world does not even know Waterdawg exhists. 99% of that 1% will not touch anything he (I say he meaning Jeff since he is a one man business) makes with a 10 foot pole. Also remember that the people get on these sites are a very small portion of the watercraft community and most will never see a Waterdawg post positive or negitive.
We have seen year in and year out the promises of quick shipping, new and improved products and his continued failures to communicate with his customers. Do a search on any of the PWC message boards over the last 5 or 6 years. You will see these repeated claims over and over. Year in and Year out. Same stuff different day is an gigantic understatment.
With that being said, I guarantee nobody at Blowsion is going to be out of a job anytime soon or even lose a minute of sleep thinking about the new and improved Jeff and his Home depot, best buy, or wal- mart style pricing strategies.
SkiNaked
Stand up or Shut up!
- Location
- Vancouver Washington
Well Blowsion is not going anywhere but up!
i beg to differ sir.
never underestimate word of mouth
you do kind of contradict yourself in this last post. most riders don't view these boards but then go on to say what they read about him in these boards? no matter word of mouth and hands on are what will win a good business customers in the end
i garuntee you no one in our realm of infuence ( matt dj r mau mick mack moe , basically cleveland area riders) will be buying form blowsion again and that kind of negativity can hurt small business. and from the sounds of things this dissent is growing
if jeff starts to come thru then we will all push his products etc etc
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Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
Like it or not, he has been at his best over the last few months. You've been gone for a long time...
I am guessing they don't because you are vastly underestimating the development work involved in the 1200, plus they are already getting $1,500 a pop for a 62T based cylinder that they have to do nothing to but machine a few surfaces and pop in the sleeves. No worry about the hull or pipe. It'd be pretty dumb to obsolete such a good seller.
SkiNaked
Stand up or Shut up!
- Location
- Vancouver Washington
First, I bet there are hundreds of people in the Cleveland area that ride watercraft that you have never met. Second... As great of a place Cleveland is, it is, it more then likely is not target market for most watercraft business residing outside of that area. I would bet you that Blowsion or Wamiltons sell more parts overseas in a week then they do to riders in Cleveland in a year. But hey.... Have at it. Influence away!!! Good luck with that.