Watercraft Factory hulls. Standard or BF?

[CarFanatic]

ok so I've been riding stand ups for 2 years now, and sit down all my life. Wish I had been riding stand ups all my life, but not so lucky! anyways I currently have a 99 sj with all the usual bolt ons. I'm wanting to order a wcf factory hull and I've talked to steve already about the build. Unfortunately I live in cincinnati ohio, and there are not a lot of riders around so I don't get to try different types of skis. I ride flat water lakes, and want some input on if I should go standard or bf hull. Right now I'm leaning towards standard.

 

[GDFL]

what's your height/weight?

 

[CarFanatic]

5'10" 165 lbs... I'm not a big guy at all..

 

[joshuaeric]

Make sure you are honest with yourself about whether you're actually going to be attempting flatwater backflips.

You'll need a motor upgrade to pull it off. The type of upgrade will depend on your weight and skill level.

 

[CarFanatic]

ya, I'd love to be able to do them, but I dont think I can spend the huge amount of money to get all the parts. But back flip of boat make would be cool. I plan to build a nicer motor next year, but nothing extreme leaning towards an 828 from xscream. Something reliable and will last.

 

[tipafew]

Hmmmmm. I prefer a standard length hull myself. I am also 6'3" and 185lbs. I don't ever plan to have enough motor to pull a flat water flip.
However, with a 828, backflip hull, and good trim, I think you could be pulling them off.

 

[CarFanatic]

hmm.. I just wonder how a bf hull will ride. being that all I get is flat water, I do tend to ride around a lot on the ski.. I plan on putting a trim on for sure.

 

[GDFL]

you'll fight to keep the nose down.

 

[OCD Solutions]

So really you should be asking yourself if an aftermarket hull is really the best thing for you, not just the length. That's a lot of extra money to spend when a stock hull with minor reinforcing is more than adequate for most riders.

I really wanted an aftermarket hull for my new build but until I start busting up a stocker then see no reason, other than bragging rights, to spend that kind of money.

 

[MADMAT]

If all I rode was flatwater and did not want to do bflips or big rolls I would stay on your stocker.

If all I rode was flatwater and I wanted to go big I guess at this point I would go highroller because of his claims (flatwater backies on stock motor). Or a full carbon lightweight WCF if he makes them. I mean full carbon...hull, hood, pole, as much as possible. Just my .02

 

[CarFanatic]

Whats this high roller?? any info on it?

Main reason I want a aftermarket hull, is because I ride flat water only, and I want the lighter weight. I'm not a big guy, and the lighter weight to me is a big benifit.

 

[CarFanatic]

you'll fight to keep the nose down.

on the bf version?

 

[GDFL]

yes. It won't be as bad for you since you're relatively light, but when you chop off the tail, you're taking away planing surface from where it most affects the attitude of the ski in the water. A hull shortened in the back would never work for me. I can barely get the nose down no matter what I try. Last time I rode one I was about 210 and it wasn't easy to ride at all.....but that's just me.

 

[CarFanatic]

ah I gotcha.. Ya on my sj my nose is always down for the most part, until the tank is almost empty

 

[GIL]

This may or may not help. Crammit442 on here has a std length XFT pro series and it is SUPER LIGHT! with a std length ride plate it is nearly impossible to keep the nose down-install a Worx Dominator long ride plate and it feels just like a normal SJ. If it were me, I would go with the BF hull and have 2 ride plates, 1 short +D cut, and 1 long one. Thats my 2 cents that aint worth a dam.

 

[CarFanatic]

hmm, thats a very interesting point... swapping ride plates would be easy to do..

 

[Matt_E]

I don't have an aftermarket hull, but I will say that I prefer a shortened SJ hull over a stock length hull any day.
It's not about flatwater backflipping - it's just much more maneuvrable, more flickable, more squirrely, and feels "lighter".
If those are not attributes you seek in a hull, stay away from a shortened hull.

 

[CarFanatic]

those are what I'm looking for in this application, if I want to carve it up, I'll get a sxr.. but I dont want it to be so unstable I cant ride it for a distance at all.

 

[Matt_E]

I have no problem riding my -2 inch Superjet hull for hours. I can't comment on "distance", as I rarely ride more than 2 miles from the ramp.

Shortening that hull made it a lot more enjoyable to ride. I love it.

I don't know how that transfers over to WCF's hulls.

 

[CarFanatic]

hmm.. can you still carve decent with the shortened hull?