- Location
- Henderson,nv
Wamiltons carbon B-pipe
What do you guys think about it ?
Has anyone used one from wamiltons good/bad results ?
What do you guys think about it ?
Has anyone used one from wamiltons good/bad results ?
Wamilton carbon pipe
- Thread starter nvdutch
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Motorheads5
Livin the generation gap
- Location
- ketchikan alaska
ya I was wondering how this chamber would hold up myself.
Basically this is a hot-button.
Wamiltons says that it runs cooler allowing you to run hotter temperatures. Hence increasing performance. This is only true in that it is cooler to the touch, however the exhaust gases inside are actually HOTTER then the aluminum counterpart, because the aluminum conducts the heat a lot better, thereby dissipating the heat energy into the hull, making the exhaust gases cooler.
Also, people will say that the carbon doesn't resonate like aluminum. This is true, as composites will never have the same internal resonance as metals. Which resonance produces better performance? Nobody knows. Identical skis with the only difference being the chamber have been tested, and no one notices any difference at all.
The only thing you get for that extra money is bling, and a chamber that's lighter than its aluminum counterpart. Keep in mind though, its a lot easier to rub through carbon then it is aluminum, so if you rub your chamber on the engine compartment wall a lot (as most do) then you will wear right through the carbon fiber. Aluminum doesnt do that. Also, the aluminum chambers can be dented to fit, whereas carbon fiber cannot, so there may be fitting issues.
My verdict, only buy this is you have nothing else to spend it on.
Wamiltons says that it runs cooler allowing you to run hotter temperatures. Hence increasing performance. This is only true in that it is cooler to the touch, however the exhaust gases inside are actually HOTTER then the aluminum counterpart, because the aluminum conducts the heat a lot better, thereby dissipating the heat energy into the hull, making the exhaust gases cooler.
Also, people will say that the carbon doesn't resonate like aluminum. This is true, as composites will never have the same internal resonance as metals. Which resonance produces better performance? Nobody knows. Identical skis with the only difference being the chamber have been tested, and no one notices any difference at all.
The only thing you get for that extra money is bling, and a chamber that's lighter than its aluminum counterpart. Keep in mind though, its a lot easier to rub through carbon then it is aluminum, so if you rub your chamber on the engine compartment wall a lot (as most do) then you will wear right through the carbon fiber. Aluminum doesnt do that. Also, the aluminum chambers can be dented to fit, whereas carbon fiber cannot, so there may be fitting issues.
My verdict, only buy this is you have nothing else to spend it on.
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waterfreak
I had a vision!
- Location
- s florida
I love my carbon chamber. if it rubs and wears thru, all you gotta to do is throw a little glass at it.
BTW, most aluminium chambers that rub end up leaking at the weld and start looking like crap after they are used for a while
BTW, most aluminium chambers that rub end up leaking at the weld and start looking like crap after they are used for a while
LBE
Eddie Would Go.
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
:deadhorse:
Does anyone know how to use the search function?
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/49747&highlight=carbon+chamber
Does anyone know how to use the search function?
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/49747&highlight=carbon+chamber
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CP Watercraft
Pro Rider
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- New Jersey, Bayville
i tested the carbon vs the aluminium and i find out that i lost bottom end with the carbon and when i put the aluminium back on i got all the bottom end back..
plus the carbon chamber gives off a different sonic wave so by doing that it absorbs the sonic wave losing throttle response.. if people think that the carbon chamber makes power then way didnt all the pipe builds do that years ago..
plus the carbon chamber gives off a different sonic wave so by doing that it absorbs the sonic wave losing throttle response.. if people think that the carbon chamber makes power then way didnt all the pipe builds do that years ago..
Kennay
Squarenose for the _____
- Location
- Myrtle Beach, SC
Wouldn't happen to have any dyno numbers, would ya? :mischievous:
CP Watercraft
Pro Rider
- Location
- New Jersey, Bayville
nope sorry
Who says the b-pipe (carbon or aluminum) is?
I thought I read somewhere that Team Scream said the Powerfactor pipe was better for large displacement/race gas motors and the B was better for more mild setups.
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
I beleive Crammit had his ORIGINAL carbon chambers dyno tested-might wanna ask Crammit what those dyno #'s were-I believe Paul dyno tested them for Crammit.
Nobody, that's the point.
You are advising someone to get a pipe you have never tried and know virtually nothing about.
I think that's a bit irresponsible, don't you?
You assume a lot Matt
If paying 500 for a chamber makes someone feel better, then do it. I'll keep running my setup and you keyboard tuners can run yours.
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
One last time, I have a carbon limited(Crammit442 built), alum limited and aluminum mod. I have tested back to back the carbon and aluminum chambers and could not tell any difference other than noise-the carbon is real raspy until warmed up.
This cant be true. I have dyno'd my carbon b-pipe verse aluminum and it added an extra 20 horse. The stitching in the carbon fiber on the inside increases exhaust gas exit speed thereby increasing the vacuum and consequently increased the amount of fuel entering the chamber, similar to a supercharger.
Not. like I said earlier, if anything, the carbon chamber runs the exhaust gas temps higher then aluminum, you can probably add more water in the headpipe to cool it down I guess though.