lerott
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Anybody try the 2 type of motor mounts and can give me feedback please ?
Thank you
Thank you
Urethane motor mounts VS cold fusion motor mounts
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icecoled007
Captain of this ship
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I havent tried both monts but I have heard the Cold Fusion is the way to go. Or OEM mounts from a sit down
lerott
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Yes oem GP motor mounts with base plate machined to fit in superjet is a good option 3X or 4X more resistant.
Urethane motor mounts seems to be a long life product because urethane cross over base plate but I've no information
Cold fusion is a very good product but more expensive....
Urethane motor mounts seems to be a long life product because urethane cross over base plate but I've no information
Cold fusion is a very good product but more expensive....
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I have used OEM, Urethane and GP Mounts. I have failed everything except for the GP Mounts. I have a set of Cold Fusions on the shelf that will go in once the GP Mounts fail.
There was a bad batch of Urethane mounts sent out and my first set was part of that batch and failed after one ride. They were replaced free of charge and are being tested further in ScottS's Superjet.
There was a bad batch of Urethane mounts sent out and my first set was part of that batch and failed after one ride. They were replaced free of charge and are being tested further in ScottS's Superjet.
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- Oceanside, CA
no, they dont. CF had a bad batch that went out. the molding guy dropped the ball and carl was pissed. were sorry some had to go through it. you guys know CFs quality and doesnt want this little mishap to effect the brands name. there was 40 of them, so far we have gotten 16 back. they are warranted and since they broke we have made them stronger they now can take 750 pounds of force and 3inch of stretch in all direction which is double there previous strength so, it was a bad/good thing.
i have been running them since the beginning and mine never broke and that was when i was learning superflips and flairs. i took them out so carl could get feedback on them. you guys know how i ride, i havnt broke them, i think that says alot.
buy the Cold-Fusion Mounts. you wont be sorry.
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As much as we want to believe that hard riding kills motor mounts, I believe there is another reason they fail. I have replaced several mounts in my Wifes Superjet and I guarantee she doesn't ride hard.
When her first set failed at Daytona, I wrote it off to a fuel leak her ski had where there was an inch of ethanol fuel in the hull for a couple of weeks. It ate up alot of plastic parts including both bilge bases and any 5200 it came in contact with. Now that a second set failed, I don't know what to think.
I can also understand that they suffer catastrophic failure during huge inverts and bad landings but I suggest that they may already be separating and therefore weakened a little before hand.?.?. Yes? No? :dunno:
When her first set failed at Daytona, I wrote it off to a fuel leak her ski had where there was an inch of ethanol fuel in the hull for a couple of weeks. It ate up alot of plastic parts including both bilge bases and any 5200 it came in contact with. Now that a second set failed, I don't know what to think.
I can also understand that they suffer catastrophic failure during huge inverts and bad landings but I suggest that they may already be separating and therefore weakened a little before hand.?.?. Yes? No? :dunno:
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- Oceanside, CA
ive had a couple sets of monkeygrips and some oems that look like the top washer was coming off the rubber straight out of the wrapper......
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This will open up a can of worms. How can we know if we have one of the bad sets? Date purchased?
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i know. carl and i were just saying cant wait for a thread like this and bam here it is.... i figured might aswell put it out there. i know they were only red ones, not sue on the date but they are old i know that.
WaveDemon
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I've heard of some qc problems.
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Failure happens to every company at some point. What sets some above others is how they handle that failure. I am sure Carl will stand behind his product as did RHASS. I have norhing but respect for both products.
Waiting on my replacements to arrive, and no problems with service.
Installed July 10 2011 and they failed August 20. They were sent in on 8/24.
BTW they were silver not red.
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Did you git a replacement set or what?
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No need for any one to stress (except me lol)
Here is the FYI
We tested compounds and internal designs for a year
We put out 477 mounts . we have had 16 that have separated due to improper vulcanization (not a process that we perform in house)
when they travel form use to a distributor to a dealer to an end user we dont know who got what, with the info we have received and looking at our shipping schedule than going back to the vulcanisers records we potentially have 44 mounts with bad bonding, this dosnt mean they will fail as there is a mechanical component as well , but they may not be the strength we intended to produce
Hence the guy pancaking double backie attempts may brake them were and others will have no issue
Unfortunately they sold out way faster than we could produce them, as such 4 owners have been awaiting replacements , that we should have this week
So here what we did
We doubled the test requirements to 800 pounds of force
we opted for a different more expensive material
we have put the test machine at the vulcanisers to sample parts as they are produced
and we have informed our dealers that we will swap out any bad product free of charge including shipping (however we must have the old units back to make the vulcanisers eat it)
understand that motor mounts are a double edge sword and cant be made to last forever
they cant be too strong or damage to other components will happen
to week and they wont last long
too hard vibration will kill things
to soft they get torn
ect ect ect
Db
Here is the FYI
We tested compounds and internal designs for a year
We put out 477 mounts . we have had 16 that have separated due to improper vulcanization (not a process that we perform in house)
when they travel form use to a distributor to a dealer to an end user we dont know who got what, with the info we have received and looking at our shipping schedule than going back to the vulcanisers records we potentially have 44 mounts with bad bonding, this dosnt mean they will fail as there is a mechanical component as well , but they may not be the strength we intended to produce
Hence the guy pancaking double backie attempts may brake them were and others will have no issue
Unfortunately they sold out way faster than we could produce them, as such 4 owners have been awaiting replacements , that we should have this week
So here what we did
We doubled the test requirements to 800 pounds of force
we opted for a different more expensive material
we have put the test machine at the vulcanisers to sample parts as they are produced
and we have informed our dealers that we will swap out any bad product free of charge including shipping (however we must have the old units back to make the vulcanisers eat it)
understand that motor mounts are a double edge sword and cant be made to last forever
they cant be too strong or damage to other components will happen
to week and they wont last long
too hard vibration will kill things
to soft they get torn
ect ect ect
Db
Not yet, as Db posted they should be here soon to install in the new hull for more abuse.
yamaslut
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