Other SXR's hulls are built better than Super Jet hulls

227

Its all about the surf!
Location
Oceanside, CA
Yeah I said it! You know why? because it's true, and I would know since I own both. Now before all you SJ worshipers get your panties in a wad, let me be clear, I'm not saying an SXR is a better all around ski as that award clearly goes to the Super Jet. What I am saying is that Kawasaki did a much better job when they made the SXR hull than Yamaha did when they made the Super Jet hull.

In the past most of the love has gone to the Super jet because it's so much lighter than the SXR, but over time, that lightness has proven to of come with a price. Most of the flat water freestylers have even realized that if you want to do the big tricks, even the "Lighter" Superjet is too heavy. I haven't seen a Superjet in the World Finals in years. So what does that lightness of a Superjet hull mean to the average rider? It means you have to reinforce. I reinforced mine, didn't you have to do yours also? Also what about that crappy two part hull foam that water logs after a few years? Anyone who's done a re-foam knows that's a real joy.

Now let's look at the SXR. Kawasaki built the thing strong enough in the first place that it doesn't need to be reinforced, even when it's going to be ridden in the surf. And the foam in an SXR hull never water logs. You know why? because the foam in the rear of the hull is the same type of foam as the nose piece is made of, completely water and petroleum resistant. Now that was some great thinking on Kawasaki's part! Had Yamaha made the Super jet with a little thicker hull and also used good hull foam it would be the undisputed king, but they didn't so as far as the hull goes, the award goes to the SXR.
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
The hull design is also excellent. It has features that have been copied by many designers starting with the wide rear rails, the concave pump inlet, and built in tubbies that let to where we are now with A/M hulls.

The weight is the one huge drawback and it's just a bit too long.
 
sj was made in 96

sxr was made in like 2003

Its a lot newer design so I would hope its stronger and handles better. Its also huge, and 100 lbs more. Reinforcing done right probably would add ten lbs at most. Yes yamaha kind of redesigned in 08 but the didnt even touch the top deck so it doesnt count.

My friend has a lightly modded sxr with umi pole and its the most stable nice new feeling hull i have ridden.
 

snowxr

V watch your daughters V
Location
Waterford, MI
The hull design is also excellent. It has features that have been copied by many designers starting with the wide rear rails, the concave pump inlet, and built in tubbies that let to where we are now with A/M hulls.

The weight is the one huge drawback and it's just a bit too long.

SXIpro was the first kawi with the concave pump inlet. The SXR hull is wider, but not at all tubbie like. Besides, side sponsons were popular way before the SXR, anyway.
 

icecoled007

Captain of this ship
Location
Colorado
While were at it, maybe we should give it an award for best looking handle pole


I hope thats a joke..... Ill never understand why they slapped an old crappy 750 pole on such a well developed/engineered ski....

I own both, and both have pro's and con's. I cant honestly say I would want one over the other, they both have pros and cons.

A Rickter however you start to get best of both worlds....
 
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Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
SXIpro was the first kawi with the concave pump inlet. The SXR hull is wider, but not at all tubbie like. Besides, side sponsons were popular way before the SXR, anyway.

I didn't know that about the SXI Pro. I guess you have to define "tubbie". The SXR bulges out up front and is narrow in the rear and the wide front area swoops up at the rear, it's just not a "hard" line like the 08+ SJ or Matrix, it transitions. Sure side sponsons were popular before, but who had them built in?
 

Watty

Random Performance
Location
Australia
You'll always get that area on the outside of the tray that starts breaking up after the repeated barrel roll failures that are inevitable on a ski that lacks any real pop off the bottom. Sure, bigger waves help to remedy the situation, but sometimes we can't have it all.

Agreed on the foam though...I just got some of that gear in a sheet to do the rear cavity on a Superjet.
 

227

Its all about the surf!
Location
Oceanside, CA
Agreed on the foam though...I just got some of that gear in a sheet to do the rear cavity on a Superjet.

Thats my real beef with the Super Jet, is the cheap ass foam that water logs so easily. Do you know what type of foam Yamaha used for the nose foam? I do. Its called "Beaded Polypropylene or BPP" (Which I believe is they same stuff as Expanded Polypropylene or EPP) Its both water and petroleum proof. Its basicly the same stuff they use for body board cores and its also used in the bumpers of newer cars. Thats the stuff you need if you're doing a re foam. I'm going start a thread as soon as I can find a suppiler
 
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