Power factor wet or dry pipe Vs RRP carbon wetpipe

[masterblaster]

Ive ridden a pfp that was water injected and been pretty impressed with low end response and power. Anyone have any back to back experience against the rrp carbon wet pipe.

interested in response/power gained at different level CC... injecting the pfp,how little water amount and pressure can you get away with to maintain the gain?

 

[GIL]

It makes me CRAZY!!!

Got to have a B pipe-had a bunch of them

Got to have a TNT-did that too

Got to have a Crammit carbon B pipe-did that too

Got to have a PFP-did that too

And now we are at a PFP DRY PIPE and ADDING WATER??? SERIOUSLY??? LOL (so now we are taking a 1500.00 pipe and turning it into a 750.00 B pipe)

Bandwagons sure are expensive for me.............................

 

[rubbertoe]

It makes me CRAZY!!!

Got to have a B pipe-had a bunch of them

Got to have a TNT-did that too

Got to have a Crammit carbon B pipe-did that too

Got to have a PFP-did that too

And now we are at a PFP DRY PIPE and ADDING WATER??? SERIOUSLY??? LOL (so now we are taking a 1500.00 pipe and turning it into a 750.00 B pipe)

Bandwagons sure are expensive for me.............................

Gil ,its not really a band wagon thing .look at the diameter or over all volume of a "B" pipe ,then compare it to the PFP . the PFP pipe run as a "large" wet pipe has its best results on big displacement motors (1000cc +)where its volume and length can be utilized.also if done correctly you can still turn your PFP pipe back into a dry pipe and have the best of both worlds ,in my opinion its just a newer break thru in the science of braappology is all .so don't feel like your "b" pipe sitting on the shelf is equal Braappp for half the price,its simply more like half the pipe .

 

[ChadGnarly]

I did back to back with a blaster mod pipe and the carbon rrp pipe and it was 1 of the biggest differences i have ever had in all the million parts i have tested.

 

[Joker]

And the results were.....?

 

[baxt3r]

And the results were.....?

Big. Huge. One of the biggest differences ever!!111111

 

[masterblaster]

no surprise the rrp pipe walks all over the factory b mod pipe. Some motor setups seem to prefer the pfp dry,if you like the delayed mega hit,but some others prefer the instant throttle response on the pipe power before you can hardly finish getting the throttle back to the grip.

anyone have any back to back of the pfp water injected to the RRP carbon?

 

[Myk]

I'm pretty sure my pfp has an internal crack so I'm thinking of trying it wet. I too would like the extra bottom end snap too.

 

[masterblaster]

have you pressure tested it? might as well try water injecting it

500 views and very little info posted.im surprised more people arent injecting the pfp by now?

 

[hink320]

I just recently switched mine over to injection. I was having lack of power and bogging issues, pressure tested my chamber and found it to be cracked. I'm very impressed with the water injection, very powerful. I still have lots of tuning to do with it, i need to get the temp up in my exhaust, I'll be trying some smaller jets in the next few days.

 

[WILKEY]

So what all is needed for water injection?

 

[hink320]

Not much...a spray bar, a jet and some plugs.

 

[badvinny]

I'm pretty sure my pfp has an internal crack so I'm thinking of trying it wet. I too would like the extra bottom end snap too.

I think most PFP pipes that become wetpipes are just through necessity like yours, I have the same issue as you but just bit the bullet on a RRP chamber and will mod my manifold to work with it.

 

[whitca]

I think most PFP pipes that become wetpipes are just through necessity like yours, I have the same issue as you but just bit the bullet on a RRP chamber and will mod my manifold to work with it.

What did you have to mod on your manifold and what did just a chamber set you back if you don't mine me asking?

 

[masterblaster]

I think most PFP pipes that become wetpipes are just through necessity like yours, I have the same issue as you but just bit the bullet on a RRP chamber and will mod my manifold to work with it.

Many PFP start life as injected,many builders and tuners are using it with new builds, Especially now with the RRP being made as a wetpipe,and working so well to get some of these large motors with huge pistons to really rev quick and be responsive and powerful on the low end. I saw a few injected pipes at world finals 2 yrs ago.Im sure some variations have been used,guess talking about here is faux pas,I find that a lil comical really.
Hiro is prolly one of the most knowledgeable builder/tuners.The RRP pipe he designed is a lil different everywhere than the pfp,Im interested to see what you do to the pfp manifold to make it work correctly. Doesnt sound like they are gettin the manifolds anytime soon,ton on back order already. A billet one like the wdk ,may be interesting for it... I have a unique setup id like to tune based on this pipe and its ability to get the bottom end responding perfect.

 

[keith t]

I have the RRP and PFP manifolds side by side, they are the same casting, the RRP has a tapped hold for the water inlet fitting, and the exit bore is sleeved to match the chamber, the sleeve is welded in place. Dead easy to imitate, but unfortunately i didnt take any pics

 

[whitca]

Many PFP start life as injected,many builders and tuners are using it with new builds, Especially now with the RRP being made as a wetpipe,and working so well to get some of these large motors with huge pistons to really rev quick and be responsive and powerful on the low end. I saw a few injected pipes at world finals 2 yrs ago.Im sure some variations have been used,guess talking about here is faux pas,I find that a lil comical really.

Why is it so hush hush? I've heard bits and pieces about making the conversion but not enough to warrant trying myself.

 

[ChadGnarly]

The tuning of the wet version pfp is very finicky with the temp and pressure and inline jets. The money setup needs to be adjusted as air and water temps change. And the jets can easily get clogged with sand when ridden in surf.

 

[Bobert540]

Talk to your engine builder, see what they recommend, go from there...

 

[Myk]

We've got a rrp and pfp to compare. I picked up everything I need to make my pfp wet like the rrp today. I'll fill you in on how it goes tonight. I'll try and remember to take a few pics as I go. I also have a 3/8" filter and spray nozzle and a 1/4" filter and spray nozzle. I know the rrp uses 1/4 but I'm not sure y it would matter since you are restricting it with a jet either way. ...