Ohio Water cops.

[MADMAT]

Today ski4 crushed his face while doing the biggest roll Cleveland has ever seen. When we got to the ramps, a ODNR officer approached Chris and then something along the lines of this happened.

He forced Chris to fill out an accident report and then questioned him on whether or not he would be seeking medical treatment. Chris, a registered nurse, said no. He then made Chris fill out a refusal for EMS form.

Not only do I want to know if he had any right to make someone fill out a report considering the injury (NOT A PWC ACCIDENT!!) took place out in Lake Erie and not in the park. I also want to know if he had the right to threaten Chris with a citation if he was to go to a hospital for treatment prior to filling out another form (Chris did'nt fill that one out because he told the guy 3 times that he was'nt going to a hospital.)

I guess its just my need to know. It just seemed weird to me and I can just see them using this type of stuff against us in PWC accident statistics.

 

[Matt_E]

Dikkhead on a powertrip.

That's how they are.

 

[sflsurfrider]

any pics?

 

[MADMAT]

LOL. I'm trying to get him to post some but the blood is all dry now!

 

[ski4]

well maybe the guy was just serioulsy concerned i am staring to think, he just called me at home to make sure all was good, it must have looked worse than i felt

here is some pix of the ensuing swelling . sux i wish dj would have had a video camera for this, :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

the bleeding finally stopped, ( 5 hrs later???
oh well all is good, now i need a god damn full face and need to pawn off this helmet

 

[keefer]

Ouch, I know that had to hurt.. At least you were having fun while doing it:cheer: :Banane01:

 

[djkorn1]

Dude, I was a little concerned... you seemed a bit out of it.

That guy WAS being a dick, though. It's cool that he called though to make up for it. I am bummed about the whole camera thing too. Anyone know of anywhere I can go and get mine fixed?

 

[ski4]

i was a bit spooked on the beach too, i was in outer space and really couldn't focus, i still am a little spacey. , the worst is i broke my damn nose again, will have 3 scars and i think i cracked my tooth.

oh well a testament for full face helmets i guess and a bit of lessons for the cleveland crew

tell jen thanks again for the towel, and thanks for following me in guys

way cool, did i miss anything after????

 

[djkorn1]

Dude,
Don't even worry about the towel. She sacrifices towels to bleeding kids almost daily. She was asking how you were.

You should post that pic in the carnage section under the 'scars on scars' topic. There are some people f'd up a lot worse than you in there.

 

[MADMAT]

That is cool that he called. It still bothers me that someone can be sited at will by these guys.

That pics hurts to look at!

 

[ski4]

i really don't understand the reasoning, he was saying i had to fill out this form if i did go to the hospital. and if i wen't to the hospital and did not send in this form in 10 days they would cite me?????????? still he had me running around with himto get a witness that i refused ems care and filled out some other accident report and a vehicle safety inspection, wtf else could they need??????

strange, not sure how they even know, but maybe some how when he took my ss # they will be watching??????????? i will have to ask D if she has ever heard of anything like that if here realm

oh well all good and done, just sucked that it bled for like 5 hrs, it's all over every damn thing

 

[MADMAT]

Holy crap you busted your nose too!! Sorry man, that sucks. Heal quickly man.

 

[ski4]

oh sure. i knew that as soon as i heard " CRUNCH"
my nose was broken once a long time ago and now it goes just like that, my son has don't it to me like 2 or 3 times with his big ole head

should be out tues or wed i hope.

 

[djkorn1]

Dude, you ARE Hardcore! :headbang::headbang:

 

[MADMAT]

:headbang: :headbang:

 

[MADMAT]

I agree but I am really getting sick of the gov injecting their "concern" on to me. If I need you I will ask for your help.

They had no azz to cover (even know this one officer thought he did). The friggin gov in general needs to stay away unless we ask them for help.

I can just see them using stuff like this for a , "well I'm glad your OK but now that I have you here, we might as well inspect you and all of your friends again. Bend over."

 

[ski4]

i can see them with the need for some cya, i do it with every pt i take care of.

still, the whole fill out this form if you do go to the hospital or we will fine you is odd.. if a pt leaves the hospital against medical advice, they sign a form and leave, if they come back, cool, if not cool.

just seems once i am out of the jurisdiction of the watercraft people, i should be on my own.:sneaky:

 

[ski4]

dammit, displaced fracture of the nasal bone
but the ct scan found out why i have been having sinus problems for years.. woo hoo:arms: :arms:

 

[Rickster]

http://www.ohiodnr.com/watercraft/opsguide/vessacc.htm

If the accident results in loss of life, injury requiring medical treatment beyond first aid, or damage to property in excess of $500, the operator shall file a full report on a prescribed form. If the operator is incapacitated, an officer shall file the form

 

[ski4]

intresting:cool2:
so a cat scan is not really treatment, all the treating done was first aid
and the sinus surgery i will need is from an incidental finding so i guess i realy don't need to fill no form out