- Location
- Hutchinson, Kansas
guessing he doesn't feel it is necessary and it is a non-issue.
my waterdawg vacation!
- Thread starter DR3
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This thread was staying on a technical level earlier but now is't going straight to hell!
CoreyLKN
LKN Freestyle Militia
- Location
- Lake norman, nc
atleast he's not using some other type of pipes. HDPE for one(though as far as i know they dont make it that small).I'm not hating on the hull, but I DO NOT think the plumbing in that area should be plastic. It's an opinion.
I have looked around a little bit for high-temp ABS piping that Jeff claims he is using and I cannot find it. Standard ABS is rated for 180 degrees, which is higher than I expected, but I can find no pipe manufacturers that carry hi-temp ABS. Now, I might be proven wrong on this but I still think metal is the BEST choice, especially for the exhaust.
The only time I see ABS pipe in my neck of the woods is in a mobile home.
sorry, but im not in the jet ski business. however, my business includes calling it like i see it. sorry if it offends you so much, but the materials used in that hull are a JOKE.
i know there are clueless douchebags out there thatd never see a problem with how shoddy the plumbing is as it probably resembles every boat theyve ever owned.
im sure that if you asked jeff, he would prefer to not have those pics shown on the web. its just embarrasing.
and the chopper gun..... please.
- Location
- Hutchinson, Kansas
I've always been respectful to you, steve. I like your builds and you've given me great advice in the past.
I directed that last post at your sidekick not you.
Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
That's the first prepreg REV hull he laid up. 60 pounds hull and hood. The hood itself is 6.5 pounds.
Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
There's only 24 hours in a day, and 1 Jeff :biggthumpup:
Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
Let's just put it this way, there are 3 X-Jets older than all of your hulls and they have all held up well to serious abuse :woot:
The other Alex
(Jetdude)
- Location
- Lake St. Clair--
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Okay, so I might not have and extreme amount of knowledge on skis and how they are built, and I may not have the attitude such as yours to defend my comment, so I will just ask why I am wrong instead.
Please explain to me what is different between the plumbing on this ski and any other Superjet that everyone, including yourself, owns? ..With the exception of the Exhaust.
As the for the "chopper," your SuperJet is not hand laid. As far as I've ever known, the last SuperJets to be hand laid were 88-89...Nothing is wrong with a ski being chopped. If you would re-read some of the posts in this thread, you would know that the purchaser/builder of this ski had a choice between a hand laid and chopped hull, and opted for the chopped hull to save cash. His "Chopped" hull with re-enforcement is going to hold up just as good as any other re-enforced SMC SuperJet.
Like I said before, the purchaser of the ski is in complete control of the build and the options. What he says goes, I dont see how you can take one mans ideas and ways of building his ski and the components used, and direct it towards the company and the quality of all products and use it to slam WD.
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chart102
I wish I thought of that
- Location
- Ruston, LA
I just wanna go ride.
RiverRat
.......
- Location
- Louisville, Ky
pretty much exactly what he told me on the phone today.........non-issue whatsoever never had a failure or melted anything.
5200 is really good stuff. Boat builds use it all day long which is why all boat supply stores cary it. It is a Marine grade product.
Braaapp!!! to that my friend:Banane35:
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chart102
I wish I thought of that
- Location
- Ruston, LA
although it is funny to see all this:swordfight:
Gainera2582
Power and Agility
- Location
- Lake Saint Clair, Michigan
Honestly, why does every damn waterdawg thread have so much damn bickering? I have seen and rode mike's x jet and not only is it a fun ski to ride, but it is built like a tank for serious abuse.
I am glad that Jeff is stepping up to the table and putting out hulls and products that are made to last at a lower cost than competitors. You get what you pay for.
I am glad that Jeff is stepping up to the table and putting out hulls and products that are made to last at a lower cost than competitors. You get what you pay for.
Mile9c1
X-H2O.com
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
You got that backwards Steve. What you should have said in bold there was "using infusion will not distribute the perfect amount of resin to material ratio", by process design.
Also overlapping sheets still need the correct resin/cloth ratio to maintain strength :wink:
Prepreg will probably always be superior to resin infusion for the resin/cloth ratio (barring some really weird layup I can't think of). If you do a perfect (perfect) infusion you might get close to prepreg levels. That's the best infustion can do - close. Anytime you have exess resin that's just extra weight and a weaker part, so I would say prepreg is superior (and far easier to get right, since the resin comes right on the cloth).
Also, you know the epoxy that comes on prepreg cloth is a top quality resin. Someone doing infusion can use... well I don't want to speculate.
Idok
F1pro
- Location
- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
Idok
F1pro
- Location
- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
boston whaler uses 5200 SOLELY to affix the center console to the deck
chart102
I wish I thought of that
- Location
- Ruston, LA
BTW when i shatter my hull in daytona, I will gladly take a WD, WCF, or a Lightweight. Theyre all sweet in my book and they all have their place in our sport. Keep it up everyone!!!!! one day I'll be able to afford somethin cool.
the difference is no other skis have PLASTIC AND RUBBER for cooling lines and exhaust tubes BEHIND the bulkhead area. have you ever even WORKED on a PWC?????
michael950
for me to POOP on!
- Location
- Houston, TX
This is going nowhere fast. Keep it up and the discussion ends.
Stay on technicalities and fact, no names.
Stay on technicalities and fact, no names.
chart102
I wish I thought of that
- Location
- Ruston, LA
the difference is no other skis have PLASTIC AND RUBBER for cooling lines and exhaust tubes BEHIND the bulkhead area. have you ever even WORKED on a PWC?????
I hate to get into this but it seems like u talk a lot of crap and call people lots of names. (Im sure other people on here do to but I just happen to see it more from u. Correct me if Im wrong) How old are we??? Im not trying to be a prick but can we put the swords away and let WD use what they want?
We all should know by now that callin people out for stuff like that does no good and it makes u look like a know-it-all. (BTW i dont know anything about this crap, I just ride)
:biggthumpup: :biggthumpup: :biggthumpup:
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