Might buy a '14 superjet for $7k out the door?

bird

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Big Kahuna said:
I bought a 2004 SXR to race Stock Class. I never once had it fail on me. Never had to turn a wrench other than working on setup (Tuning)
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you're missing a few facts to support your post:

What year did you buy it? 2006 or 2013?
Who did you buy it from? known racer or some dude on CL?
It's a stock ski, so there ya go, you're stating exactly what I said already.
 
wanderer1

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I've had more fun on any one of my A/M hulls than all my stock/factory skis put together. I haven't had any mechanical issues and would do the same maintenance on a stock SXR800 that I do on my A/M hulls/motors. But hey, results vary, maybe I've been lucky. I'd never run a stock ski for years and not at least re-ring it etc. Anyone ever read a service manual and checked the service intervals on pistons for a 2 stroke? It aint every 2-5 years. I do agree with the no finance thing, pay cash, have a few headaches and learn about skis.
 
Vumad

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Big Kahuna said:
I am going to disagree with everyone here......... My Ski is old. Parts of my ski is a 1997, My Hull is a 2000. Most everything mechanical has been replaced, many parts several times. Goatse has not been on ski's for long. He does not need an AM hull, He does not need a built motor. He also does not need to buy somebody else's problems either. He needs to learn how to ride, how to handle a ski.......... Nothing will frustrate a new rider than having a POS ski to work on. I know 2 kids here in town that bought a basket case 650sx and a 300. The one with the 300 upgraded to a 91 - 550sx that he bought from my best friend. It was a pretty good ski. But still had some issues. The Carb had to be rebuilt this year. the 650. They are still replacing part after part on it.

I say buy the 2014 SJ. Get a good ride plate, intake grate, set of 0 degree bars, and a pole spring. And go ride the piss out of it for a year. They add a B Pipe and Enhancer. Ride it another year. Then look at some good engine porting..............
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My 1st ski was a 650sx. It broke constantly until it broke permanently. I didn't know anyone and went cheap to get my foot into the door. I always offer to let people ride my ski so they have an opportunity I did not. I constantly tell people that if I knew what I know now, I would have saved up an extra $2000 and bought a very nice starter ski. My 650sx was $800 and that was a lot to me then but man I wish I had spent $3000 instead. I spent way more time with a wrench in my hand than riding. If it weren't for good people in the beginning like Tom21, then I probably wouldn't have survived in this sport.

I always buy used skis. I can't afford new.
 
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Vumad

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wanderer1 said:
I've had more fun on any one of my A/M hulls than all my stock/factory skis put together. I haven't had any mechanical issues and would do the same maintenance on a stock SXR800 that I do on my A/M hulls/motors. But hey, results vary, maybe I've been lucky. I'd never run a stock ski for years and not at least re-ring it etc. Anyone ever read a service manual and checked the service intervals on pistons for a 2 stroke? It aint every 2-5 years. I do agree with the no finance thing, pay cash, have a few headaches and learn about skis.
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Excellent point for someone who knows what kind of riding they want to do, but Flatwater, surf and racing are not only vastly different hulls, in some cases the entire package is different. My neighbor insisted on a superjet when I talked him into returning to the sport because he surf rode 20 years ago, but now he races. A SXR would be better for him but he dove right in and switched riding styles. Imagine if he got a rockered freak to surf ride, he'd be a lot more than a ride plate away from racing.

There is no aftermarket hull available as versatile as the superjet. I surf and race mine, and do a little flatwater stuff with it too. If the OP is a new rider who is not yet set into a niche, then a purpose built hull could go horribly wrong for him. I know BOB / DVX / etc are excellent skis, but they would be very very wrong for me.
 
wanderer1

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What makes a SJ more versatile than a AM Bullet SXR or Trinity EVO? My Bullet had a bone stock 750 BP for awhile and I was way faster on bouys than I was on a stock SXR. I was going to Pismo and called Rusty to ask what I should do about reinforcing for the surf, he said nothing go ride. Lighter than a dry SJ let alone a wet one for flat. Far superior build quality and a focus on getting air to the motor not water. My Trinity was a Pro Carbon so really should bring it up, even though Lustic FW Flipped his with a Polaris motor back in 09. A Bullet with a 750 BP could be built for same price as a new SJ (probably less) and is way more capable as an all around ski imo.
 
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623pwr

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Just buy it man if you afford it. Such a fun rec ride, in my opinion. I haven't been out on the SXR for a whille since I bought it.

I love how you can double in to the waves , pitch it sideways and the hull just hooks on the oncoming wave rolling a different direction. You can't mess it up, the front sides just hook.

I do crash a bit more on it then I do with the Kawi , especially when landing, (when it leans to the right). Probably have to work on my stance, getting better though.

You can't beat the price, but keep in mind its just a stocker. Great platform to start from though.
 
227

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A brand new Super jet for $7000 OTD is a smoking deal! The more popular after market hulls are all $6000 to $6500 for just the bare hull! And unless you buy a Rickter, you won't get more than 30% of your original purchase price when you go to resell. Aftermarket is for experienced, extreme riders. And aftermarket is no alternative for skill. I can't tell you how many times I've seen guys who are mediocre on their SJ show up with aftermarket hulls and they are mediocre on them too, if not worse. I say buy that new SJ, ride it until your legs are jello and never look back, while your buddy riding that Blob rides around in a 20 circle, does a weak backy and then has to wrench on it for the rest of the day. Don't go aftermarket until a Superjet is holding you back.
 
Vumad

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623pwr said:
I do crash a bit more on it then I do with the Kawi , especially when landing, (when it leans to the right). Probably have to work on my stance, getting better though.
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Do you have a b-pipe? It's lighter than stock and makes he ski lean towards the much heavier battery. You could get a lighter battery, but I mounted an aluminum block filled with lead between my 2 motor mounts under my pipe. Many people would disagree about adding weight but balance is important to me and I don't want to give up the more reliable batteries. They do make good AGM batteries smaller than the one that comes wih it but it still needs something on the left. An unbalanced ski will also carve poorly towards the lighter side.
 
Yami-Rider

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Vumad said:
My 1st ski was a 650sx. It broke constantly until it broke permanently. ... My 650sx was $800 and that was a lot to me then but man I wish I had spent $3000 instead. I spent way more time with a wrench in my hand than riding.
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My first ski was also a 650SX 7 years ago for $800, super clean and all i did was ride that thing, my uncle had a bunch of performance parts for it, because he used to race X2's back in the late 80's early 90's. So I threw a bunch of performance parts at it and it just kept running better and better. But I knew very little about ski's at that time, so I guess I was just lucky it was taken care of by its previous owners.

If you can afford it, I would say go with new. I have had great success with my 98 SJ, but I have bought some brand new motorcycles in the past and its pretty nice having something so clean and unmolested.
 
623pwr

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QUOTE="Vumad, post: 1648366, member: 2318"]Do you have a b-pipe? It's lighter than stock and makes he ski lean towards the much heavier battery. You could get a lighter battery, but I mounted an aluminum block filled with lead between my 2 motor mounts under my pipe. Many people would disagree about adding weight but balance is important to me and I don't want to give up the more reliable batteries. They do make good AGM batteries smaller than the one that comes wih it but it still needs something on the left. An unbalanced ski will also carve poorly towards the lighter side.[/QUOTE]

I haven't got that far yet to mod it. I just want to pay it off before I through down cash to buy the pipe. Also, Its tuned in so good i hate to mess with it. Its just for cruising around and jumping (play boat that's great on fuel). Thanks for the imput on a balanced ski, makes sense.

I've been try to treat the stock power like a 125cc dirt bike, if you ride it right it will rip. It is a fun ride for me even stock. Maybe next year on the pipe. Mid to top on the stock pipe is sweet though. I'll look into balancing it.
 
Yami-Rider

Yami-Rider

TigerCraft FV-PRO
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Texoma
623pwr said:
I haven't got that far yet to mod it. I just want to pay it off before I through down cash to buy the pipe. Also, Its tuned in so good i hate to mess with it. Its just for cruising around and jumping (play boat that's great on fuel). Thanks for the imput on a balanced ski, makes sense.

I've been try to treat the stock power like a 125cc dirt bike, if you ride it right it will rip. It is a fun ride for me even stock. Maybe next year on the pipe. Mid to top on the stock pipe is sweet though. I'll look into balancing it.
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I run a B-pipe with a YTX20 battery, leans to right like most SJ do. It lands great, I think you just need more practice :).
 
kevbo

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Look at it like this. You will be getting about $3000 worth of new useable engine/electrical parts and a $4000 stock hull. If you want to race then a stock hull must be used. Otherwise a very long and heavy hull isnt too much fun.
 
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