yamaslut
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I got ya... duh...
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KTM going electric
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WaveDemon
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yaaaaa now all you cool trail bikers can ride these!
more gas for the mx riders!:brap:
more gas for the mx riders!:brap:
yamaslut
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yeah, we could never be as cool as you and edwin.... :chairfall:
MX is too easy... Christ, who can't do circles around a track that's 1/8 of a mile long... Try remembering what's coming around the next corner on mile 6 of an 10 mile trail. Oh yeah the trail is 2ft wide not 15ft like your precious track... LOL....
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Wolf Child
Just Another Octard
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electric bike for a trail? :bs2:
No thanks.
I can see it now at the 30 mile mark of a 100 mile ride right after a water crossing.... " HEY, anyone got an extension cord and a generator?"
yamaslut
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come on... it's the first production model...
Wolf Child
Just Another Octard
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hey, I'm as big a fan of tech as the next guy...maybe more.
but I'm gonna pass on this till they:
- find a way to make it weigh less than an internal combustion engine
- have AT LEAST a 100 mile range
- not cost a brazillion dollars
- make the system impervious to environmental issues (Like shorting out if it gets wet)
WaveDemon
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I really prefer an internal combustion engine so I feel a little strange defending this.
- these bikes weigh less then a gas bike
- I dont know how there range compares to a full tank of gas but you can buy extra battery packs.
- they cost the same as a gas bike
- I think the motors are sealed and the rest of the connections should be as water tight as a gas bike.
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- Palm Beach, Fl
As 701 superjet would say your a$$ hurts try hittin a 100 foot plus jump with a battery pack. I agree with wulfchild when they put little nucs in their and dont cost a house and a college tuition maybe i will consider one.
WaveDemon
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I think a fair question is how much does it cost to charge a battery compaired to filling a gas tank.
how are they going to replace the feel and sound of a reving gas engine? To me that is part of the excitement of motor sports.
how are they going to replace the feel and sound of a reving gas engine? To me that is part of the excitement of motor sports.
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WaveDemon
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it takes an hour to charge. if you have 2 battery packs you'd never have to wait.
battery packs are around 3k though.
Wolf Child
Just Another Octard
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let us not forget, batteries have a finite life cycle. and replacement on those suckers is almost the cost of the entire machine.
now here are the physics of what is wrong with this. the rotation of the engine (gyroscopic motion) operates in direct correlation to the rotation of the wheels (counter gyroscopic motion). this gives the bike a 'balanced' feel (especially in flight). an electric motor wont do this and it'll feel like lobbing a brick off a jump. the rotation of the wheels alone can cause some weird handling issues in flight. especially when talking about the height/distance involved in most modern track layouts.
thats for the MX crowd. for the HS/enduro guys...the bike has to be able to be hammered in constantly changing conditions all day long.
this tech has a LONG way to go.
Mark44
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Sound can be prerecorded.
Heck they said the Wright brothers were a little crazy.
Open your minds people.
Mark44
Sound can be prerecorded.
Heck they said the Wright brothers were a little crazy.
Open your minds people.
Mark44
yamaslut
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it's a good start is all I'm saying....
yamaslut
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true, true....
OCD Solutions
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While I love that technology is always moving forward I find flaws in their sales pitch. Don't get me wrong, the bike is a wicked idea and definately will go somewhere, I just question where it can go.
One of the biggest complaints I hear about is soil errosion. While the bike meets emission and sound pollution specs, how would it rate for "tread Lightly". Escpecially with a knobby tire and gobs of torque that electric is capable of? Tear up some trails and you won't be allowed back!
One of the biggest complaints I hear about is soil errosion. While the bike meets emission and sound pollution specs, how would it rate for "tread Lightly". Escpecially with a knobby tire and gobs of torque that electric is capable of? Tear up some trails and you won't be allowed back!
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- Melbourne, FL
Of course it's not for everyone. I like the concept and the technology. RC airplanes used to always be glow fuel or 2 smoke and now look at what's out there with lithium polymer batteries and brushless motors. Boats and cars/trucks are going the same way. It's just a personal preference thing. Not only do you not have to deal with fuel, but also you don't have to deal with engine rebuilds. This bike would be great for someone wanting to do an after work trail ride or even a little track riding. It's not for everyone, but neither are standups....
WaveDemon
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Wolf Child
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2t engines are cheap it's the 4t engines that require you to take out a second mortgage. Phvk a thumper. :Banane26:
as for the other question. it's the amount of rotating mass the make the difference between electric and gas. and when you jump, you shut the engine down so as not to over rev and blow it, OR to have it grenade on landing due to high RPMS and the sudden load at touch down. with gass the enging still pins, even if it's just at idle and the rotating mass of the flywheel and crank counter act the rotating mass of the wheels. BUT... on electric, all you would have is the rotating wheels. while their gyro efects would still keep you upright, changes in direction ( scrubs, whips, or even minor directional changes or corrections would become excedeingly difficult di to the fact the you are no fighing the bikes kinetic energy and the gyro effect of the wheels.
On a bicycle, it's a similar effect, but you are talking about 1/8 of the over all mass, so corrections are no where near as difficult.