****FREESTYLE STRUCTURE***** need input from all

[yamaslut]

ok.... lets quit the opinions, ideas, pipe dreams and make this happen.
I think we all agree that pro should be run whatever, so lets concentrate on the real issue here.

How do you want to see amature freestyle run in 2007???
lets make a descision here and go w/ it. I think if we get
enough people that comptete and/or want to compete a
chance to make a call...

just pick one option above.

write in a choice if I didn't lst it.

 

[FL-cracker]

Pro class...run what you brung!

Am class...leave the current rules AND STICK WITH THEM! "no A/M hulls" unless you just want to perticepate for fun....no podium/trophy spots for cheater boats, but they can still compete.

 

[tom21]

slut what does this mean? Have to ask, not that I can compete this year unless there is a category for lame attempts. But some of my friends are pretty good and might not know what is up either. We are supposed to have some races and freestyle here in 07 Clearwater and st. pete.

 

[yamaslut]

slut what does this mean? Have to ask, not that I can compete this year unless there is a category for lame attempts. But some of my friends are pretty good and might not know what is up either. We are supposed to have some races and freestyle here in 07 Clearwater and st. pete.

I want us to come to a concensus (sp) on this.. maybe this wil help.

 

[Big Kahuna]

There needs to be a format for judging, not based off "I think that guy did those flippy things real good, Huh, no, I did not see that, was too busy talking"

I am gonna try to come up with a score sheet and take it to the race in 2 weeks and see what Mike Thinks........

 

[Big Kahuna]

Pro class...run what you brung!

Am class...leave the current rules AND STICK WITH THEM! "no A/M hulls" unless you just want to perticepate for fun....no podium/trophy spots for cheater boats, but they can still compete.

well, that is kinda bogus when you look at what WCF is doing, Steve is making lightweight hulls through Surf Hulls............. The surf hull probably weighs as much if not more than an OEM, so there would not be a benifit there........ But, lets try and stay on topic here.

 

[tom21]

where does your ski fall in there? I would be in the first one.

 

[Big Kahuna]

where does your ski fall in there? I would be in the first one.

97 SJ Hull 83mm bore stock stroke. TLR Porting

 

[Matt_E]

A better option than limiting hulls would be to come up with a weight limit for the ski.

 

[FL-cracker]

IMO #1 is a shiety deal.....you can only do so much on a limited ski. At least allow some power! Pat has proved that the right rider can rip on a Amerature class legal ski.

 

[DaUpJetSkier]

I like the idea of 2 classes, 1 & 4 on the list. 1 would basically be for someone to get their feet in the door for freestyle, look for some sponsors, and get some recognition. 4 would be for the top am's of today, basically no limit but engine and leave the pros for unlimited run what ya brung. Why have am's running the same ski the top pros are? my .02

 

[FL-cracker]

A better option than limiting hulls would be to come up with a weight limit for the ski.

I need to weigh my boat, I think you can get a stock hull around 270 no problem. complete boat minus fuel

 

[Matt_E]

Adding more classes is the wrong thing to do, imho.

 

[Big Kahuna]

most people do not have the means to weigh their ski correctly.

 

[yamaslut]

I need to weigh my boat, I think you can get a stock hull around 270 no problem.

270lbs total... no way!!!!

 

[FL-cracker]

270lbs total... no way!!!!

Thats if in fact a stock boat weighs 290lb and incluudes the battery.:biggrin:

There are plenty of ways to drop weight! It all adds up!

 

[yamaslut]

I really hope this helps us come to an agreement on this... we need to vote and then move forward w/ our descision... start a petition or whatever... Lets make freestyle the best it can be for EVRYONE.

 

[Matt_E]

most people do not have the means to weigh their ski correctly.

You are correct - and so, for simplicity's sake, I'd suggest no aftermarket hulls or topdecks for AM class.

 

[yamaslut]

Thats if in fact a stock boat weighs 290lb and incluudes the battery.:biggrin:

There are plenty of ways to drop weight! It all adds up!

you are dreaming... mine weighs at least 320lbs... it has to. and ya can't run a boat w/ out reinforcements, so i don't even want to hear that.

 

[FL-cracker]

You are correct - and so, for simplicity's sake, I'd suggest no aftermarket hulls or topdecks for AM class.

amen.......#2 all the way!!!!!!! keep it simple and half way cheap!