Super Jet Footholds install! Could use some help.

[Pro-pulsion]

That kinda sucks. Having not been into your position yet, I so far have not needed to research the topic. I wonder if setting up some sort of drain port on the inside of the pump area, kinda like they way they do it with the couches, would be a good method to allow some of that water out. This idea is making me think it might be my course of action if I ever find my foam getting soaked. At least that way if you do decide to re-foam, there will be some sort of drainage method. You could even leave the plug out over the week when you're not riding it to help keep things dry in there. I can't believe they would make these hulls in such a manner that there is no seal guarantee lol. It seems counter productive to build a boat on the common knowledge that it has to float and be water free to do so lol.

I just found this thread and thought you might be interested if you haven't seen it yet.

http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/107635...-refoaming-your-superjet-soon-read-this-first

 

[Roseand]

Still means I'd have to cut up the tray..
Anyone else have any advice?

 

[Pro-pulsion]

If you decided to put a drain plug in you wouldn't have to cut up the tray. Just do the necessary steps to drill out the right size hole and install a small flange style drain kit. I don't know if it would help dry out the current foam but it would at least offer a way of water to leave that area of the hull and get some air inside to help dry things out.

 

[Roseand]

Maybe that would help.
Anybody else have some ideas?!?!

 

[Ben Holloway]

footholds and bare feet is just a bad idea, get the proper gear and be comfortable with it...

 

[aytee]

if you don't want to do the work to refoam, then... don't... put your holds in and ride the thing... if it worries you that much, do the work... it can be debated for a year and you could get every opinion on the board but it will still come down to the question, do you want to do the work or not... it's your ski, your choice to either de/refoam or drill holes in the bottom and try to dry it out or just ride the thing...

 

[Roseand]

I will not be refoaming to the point I cut my tray out. Got the holes cut for holds, and I'm just taking out some of the moist/wet foam I can get to. Can't wait to get my holds in! U.S. composites order gets here tomorrow. Gonna have to order foam now though.

Quick question about fiberglass: When you sand the fresh glass on top of your holds and tray before you turf, since it's not gel coated or protected, won't that bare fiberglass be exposed and absorb water?

 

[aytee]

glass won't absorb water if you use the right amount of resin... you don't want any "white" spots when you're done and you want it to be kind of smooth when you're done... i like to paint it before turf, it isn't needed, but it looks good before you turf it.. haha... it makes it easier when you replace turf to see any adhesive you missed if it's all one color... idk.. it's a personal deal..

 

[Roseand]

Alright, thanks for the advice!
I just got my order from us composites! I'm excited to do this.
Should I foam behind the holds after I epoxy them and screw/rivet them to the hull, and then glass over?
Or can I do the latter and just foam them later on.
'cause I've already got all the glass supplies and I could do that now, but I have to order foam still, and that'll take a while to get..

 

[Pro-pulsion]

Not sure about under the holds and if the two part mix will get down there. But I believe it will because Blowsion will typically do the holds first, then drill a hole on the top of the gunwales and pour the 2 part mix in there. I guess it gets into everywhere and also fills around the holds. I would have to watch Fistful of Foam again but I'm pretty sure that's what they say when they talk about hull modification and reinforcement.

 

[Roseand]

I know it'll get down there, but I've seen people epoxy the holds in, then foam, then glass.
Is there a reason behind doing it in that order? Wamiltons does that in their install, and the guide on this website has that order too..

 

[gto0209]

I drilled a 1" hole in the bottom of my foothold before I installed it to pour through. Then I installed it, glassed the hold in, poured the foam, then glassed over the hole.

 

[Roseand]

Alright .
Then hopefully I'll be glassing my holds this Friday.

 

[Mitchell]

I know it'll get down there, but I've seen people epoxy the holds in, then foam, then glass.
Is there a reason behind doing it in that order? Wamiltons does that in their install, and the guide on this website has that order too..

How else could you do it? you have to epoxy before you glass and if you glassed, then drilled the hole to do foam, you would have to glass over the whole hole that you cut again.

 

[aytee]

epoxy, foam, glass... in that order... only way to do it... smooth off the foam anywhere it's needed to fill a void... don't use too much foam... remember, it expands... rapidly... mix it close to the working area, mix, mix, mix, pour... don't even breath between mixing and pouring... don't fill it full either(probably be ok if you fill from the bottom of the hold to fill to the hole), you'll have a mess if you fill it full from the top somewhere.. and tape off your hole as soon as you're done pouring, i like to place a reasonably heavy object over the tape so the foam expands inside the cavity rather coming through the tape seal.. i also like to keep an empty cardboard box close by for any excess foam in the mixing container(it's a chemical reaction and causes heat and could melt through a trash bag)... also might be a good idea to mix enough to do one side at a time rather than doing both together..