foothold install update / questions!!

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
I would do one more layer around the holds and over the foam holes and call it good. What oz cloth did you use?

Mark44

DBM 1208 Knytex Biaxial
+/- 45degree
Contains double bias(12oz) stitched at 45degrees
along with one layer of 3/4oz mat.
Thickness: 0.037"

he posted this 3 post back.
 

CarFanatic

Fiberglassing Newb
Location
Cincinnati, OH
I used 12 oz cloth.

I"ll do one more layer tonight.

there is two layers on the bottom of the hold, I over lapped it with that huge sheet I layed. Should I add another sheet on the tray?

When I go to sand this I just lightly sand it smooth?
 

Mark44

Katie's Boss
Location
100% one place
I used 12 oz cloth.

I"ll do one more layer tonight.

there is two layers on the bottom of the hold, I over lapped it with that huge sheet I layed. Should I add another sheet on the tray?

When I go to sand this I just lightly sand it smooth?

Yes just rough it up with some 80 then lay another layer around the holds.

You have done a great job on these they looks very nice. :Banane09:

Mark44
 

Mark44

Katie's Boss
Location
100% one place
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thanks! I just hope they stay together for along time

You think I should do another layer in the tray?

No I think you are fine. Those holds will be there forever. The only thing I have had to do to mine is fix where I had crushed the glass over the years by kicking my feet in them.

Mark44
 

slickchaos

Chaos on a SJ
Location
Mass/NH
fanatic..


how long as this process taken you ?

do you or anyone else know , is there a certain temp required for the glue
or resin to dry ?

IE am i better off doing this in october 50-60 degrees or in the winter where in the 20's ( my garage is not heated)..

figured i can do the mats in the spring.
 

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
you can get low temp curing epoxy for colder temps.
I tried using regular epoxy outside one winter, it cured VERY slow, I had heat guns, lamps, all sorts of junk and it basically never hardened up.
 

CarFanatic

Fiberglassing Newb
Location
Cincinnati, OH
well I have been taking my time and not working on it everyday, but I would say I pulled the mats and cleand off the glue one day. Then I cut out the hole and scooped out the foam, and test fit the holds to make sure there was enough clearnece. Then I glued in.. you gotta wait 12 hrs for glue to dry, then I filled in the holes from the screws, then another 12 hr wait. Then I foamed. that only takes like 30 min. Last night I did one layer of glass. I would say if I worked longer at it 3 days. but I only did about 1-2 hrs at a time in the evening. I think only temp matters for the foam. The epoxy gets hot when it starts to bond. I would do it in october though if I were you, or in like march or may. you could do it in your basement if you have one too. I was gonna bring my ski in my house to do it if I was gonna do it over the winter.
 

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
Dry time for epoxy is related to temp, that is why you have fast and slow cure......

Best to do when temps in the 60's. The hotter it is the faster the dry time.
 

onesojourner

I use a thumb throttle.
Location
springfield, mo
I don't know how thick the bottoms of the holds are but I would lay at least one layer over them. that spot will take all the impact of most of your landings.
 

CarFanatic

Fiberglassing Newb
Location
Cincinnati, OH
holds were thin,, about 1/4 thick... I"ll do another layer tonight. its gonna make a lip there on the holds though... so it wont be a smooth transition from the deck into the holds.

Wammer told me the fiberglass just simply helps seal the holds.
 
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CarFanatic

Fiberglassing Newb
Location
Cincinnati, OH
ok, the bottom of the holds has two layers, and I put some extra in the bottom of the hold it self, for strength on landings. Now How much can I sand these?? the edges are kinda sharp, can I sand them to where they will be more flat with the ski? right now there kinda square and glass sticken out and sharp. I only did one layer around the sides, I started to do two, but it was just so thick... and the holds really seem to be in there good!
 
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hermanns

poor
Location
gainesville, fl
yeah, i agree it was a good idea that you did glass over the bottom of the holds themselves. I don't know about those, but my REVs would have shattered within 2 rides max if I hadn't done it. I just did a couple layers over the section of the tray between the footholds and all the way across the bottom of them. The rest of the holds are reinforced from the rear, but it wouldn't work on the bottom. I didn't bother to refoam where i pried it out, i hope it doesn't affect strength any. Oh well
 

gj_fx1

X-H2
you can get low temp curing epoxy for colder temps.
I tried using regular epoxy outside one winter, it cured VERY slow, I had heat guns, lamps, all sorts of junk and it basically never hardened up.

"low temp" for epoxy means like 50's not 20's...
The dap contact cement for the turf also wants to be real warm
(I think they say keep at 70+ for 24 hrs ..)


..ant I'll say from experience if epoxy sets part way and doesn't harden you have a real
gooey mess to clean up and start over.
 
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Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
this is the one Ive used before, from epoxy products

LTC 38 -------------------------------- 2.5 gal unit $185 ---- 40 oz unit $42* ---- 80 oz unit $72* --- (25 gal unit $1525)

Stands for Low Temp Cure - a marine epoxy for use in cold weather (say 38/40 degrees to about 50 degrees F)



"low temp" for epoxy means like 50's not 20's...
The dap contact cement for the turf also wants to be real warm
(I think they say keep at 70+ for 24 hrs ..)


..ant I'll say from experience if epoxy sets part way and doesn't harden you have a real
gooey mess to clean up and start over.
 

CarFanatic

Fiberglassing Newb
Location
Cincinnati, OH
I start turf tonight!! I just gotta sand some more first.. and go pick up the dap glue! Hope to ride this sunday.. might be my last chance!
 
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