few questions after riding this weekend...

[Ericfox]

1st... has anyone else noticed that no matter what you set your pipe screws at--> there is not much difference in performance at all? I tried about 6 widely different combinations with almost no noticable difference....

2nd--> does adjusting your high speed adjustment screw really help freestyle riding? I have mine pretty close I'm sure (1.5 turns out with all the regular mods except porting)....I dont know if its worth fine tuning it since I should not hold my ski very long at WOT to test it... and I just dont know how beneficial the high speed adjustment is to freeride

3rd--> to all you guys that use the idle to kill your ski --> how long does it run before it dies when it idles? My ski idles a little bit higher rpm sometimes than it does at others... I assume this is pretty normal because of air temp, water temp, barometer, fuel quality, etc... does anyones ski ever NOT stop idling when you fall off? Does this happen pretty often? Does it just circle or what? I am just a little worried about setting my ski to die from idle- but I do want to do it so I can try some different tricks eventually...

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

you should be able to turn the idle down enough that it will die instantly.

 

[Matt_E]

does adjusting your high speed adjustment screw really help freestyle riding? I have mine pretty close I'm sure (1.5 turns out with all the regular mods except porting)....I dont know if its worth fine tuning it since I should not hold my ski very long at WOT to test it... and I just dont know how beneficial the high speed adjustment is to freeride

Eh.... You should have your carb(s) tuned right no matter what type of riding you do. This has nothing to do with freestyle riding. Tune it correctly.

 

[steveyz250fpilot]

I like mine to stay idling, but I am one of those who chooses to use a lanyard. If I fall off that hard, I want my lanyard to kill the ski.

 

[Fro Diesel]

you should be able to turn the idle down enough that it will die instantly.

that's exactly how mine is setup. I did have it take off out to sea once...but that was with the old motor. A wave came and swamped it and it died so i could swim back up to it. Had me worried for a second that i would have to wait for it on shore. I heard a story about someone who lost theirs on the big lake but the waves eventually washed it up a mile down the beach.

If your worried about it couldn't you just run w/ a lanyard?

 

[Ericfox]

hell no... I dont want any restrictions... bye bye lanyard

 

[Scraggly]

hell no... I dont want any restrictions... bye bye lanyard

i never liked a lanyard, but i use one on my sj now. not for any reason other then i found one thats plenty long enough that as long as i dont get more then an arms reach it wont pull out. since i got it together i think i have pulled it 3 times maybe, and i eat it regularly. also its on the vest, i couldnt stand to have one on my wrist.

 

[Ericfox]

Eh.... You should have your carb(s) tuned right no matter what type of riding you do. This has nothing to do with freestyle riding. Tune it correctly.

Well as far as I can tell the ski is running great... I have no bogging or lean hesitations... I have tuned the low speed screw to lean hesitation and then bumped it back up 1/8 turn to get rid of it... then the low jet / popoff/ high jet all seem to be dead on... the only thing I didnt know what to do with is the high speed screw...

As long as the ski seems to be running good and it does not seem to be cutting out during short WOT runs or bogging down... what else can I do? How if I adjust the high speed screw 1/4 turn +/- will it really do anything for me? Its not running lean... if it runs a little bit rich on the top I dont see the harm? what do you think about that?

 

[Ericfox]

you should be able to turn the idle down enough that it will die instantly.

Yes, but is that what you want? How do you get on the hood or do a monkey jump and other tricks if the ski shuts off instantly? not that I can do a monkey jump at this exact moment... but I want to try eventually

 

[ADDict]

I have mine set to just die instantly, no problems. Thats the way I've been rocking my X2's and my SJ. Problem is if your throttle ever was to stick for some reason your screwed. I'll have lanyards on BOTH my ski's this summer just for friends to ride. I trust myself on it, and I trust Rags, but I sure wouldn't want anyone who doesn't know what they are doing to hop on it and slam my new ski into the dock.

 

[Matt_E]

Well as far as I can tell the ski is running great... I have no bogging or lean hesitations... I have tuned the low speed screw to lean hesitation and then bumped it back up 1/8 turn to get rid of it... then the low jet / popoff/ high jet all seem to be dead on... the only thing I didnt know what to do with is the high speed screw...

As long as the ski seems to be running good and it does not seem to be cutting out during short WOT runs or bogging down... what else can I do? How if I adjust the high speed screw 1/4 turn +/- will it really do anything for me? Its not running lean... if it runs a little bit rich on the top I dont see the harm? what do you think about that?

The Hi speed adjuster regulates fuel flow for 75%-100% throttle.
To figure out if it needs adjusting, cruise at 75% throttle for a few seconds, then go wide open.
You should get no hesitation or loading up, it should run clear and without sputter.

 

[Fro Diesel]

I have mine set to just die instantly, no problems. Thats the way I've been rocking my X2's and my SJ. Problem is if your throttle ever was to stick for some reason your screwed. I'll have lanyards on BOTH my ski's this summer just for friends to ride. I trust myself on it, and I trust Rags, but I sure wouldn't want anyone who doesn't know what they are doing to hop on it and slam my new ski into the dock.

Exactly. I read a few stories on her and it happened to my neighbor up at the lake. Run away skis can be deadly.

Don't make someone else pay the ultimate price....just cuz you don't like restrictions. okey:

Hell, no one likes restrictions...that's why i tell her i won't use a condom....:silly:

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

ive ran for YEARS with no lanyards, I had a throttle cable stick sort of last year, not WOT, but enough to move the boat and I couldnt catch it, it didnt get away from me, I was on it, but it was near a dock. wouldnt have hurt anyone, just potentially a PITA situation.

ive been using the lanyard clipped to my vest since then.

 

[Ericfox]

All info very good... so basically if you want to do tricks like monkey jumps and hood tricks then you want to not use a lanyard and just turn your idle down so the ski dies instantly... I will do this... but when I am doing normal tricks I will just put my lanyard on... otherwise I will just wrap it around the bars... but I will have my idle turned down all the way the whole time....

What about the first thing from the 1st post... has anyone else noticed this to be pretty much true? Me and the other guy that I was with on Sat. both came to this conclusion on both of our skis...

 

[Mark44]

Never let go of the ski and tune that high speed circuit before you run the cylinder lean on the top end.

I have noticed a difference in the pipe screw settings it is a fine adjustment and noticeable improvement.

Mark44

 

[Ericfox]

If the pipe was running cold would you see less of a difference when messing with the screws? I doubt it... but Im just trying to make sense of this since I tried drastically different settings with little to no difference in performance... ran great! just figured I would notice a difference between the different screw settings...

 

[Ericfox]

Never let go of the ski and tune that high speed circuit before you run the cylinder lean on the top end.

I have noticed a difference in the pipe screw settings it is a fine adjustment and noticeable improvement.

Mark44

Most likely I am running between dead on and 1/4 turn rich... I will test the 3/4 hold --> to WOT to see if there is any bog or hesitation, but I think I am pretty safe at 1.5 turns out as far as being lean... I think I did that test already, but I will have to do it again now just for my own peace of mind, or I will have to slap myself if I fail from being lean on the top...

 

[thegoldenboy]

I run a lanyard on my wrist. Its never a big deal and doesn't get in the way. Than again I'm not hood riding like some.

The last thing I need is my ski to stick WOT and crash into someone on our lake or worse, shore. We ride generally a small body of water, not worth the risk.

At Ipperwash I rode with a zip tie and idle a smidge off dead. Best setting for me, if it get swamped it dies.