Does anyone have a pitch gauge they could post?

Dustin Mustangs

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Seems like this is something that could be scanned and setup to print off at actual size. Yes? Could anyone hook this up?? I would love to have one of these on hand for verifying pitch and possibly playing around with bending my own.
 

Dustin Mustangs

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Hmmm, not quite what I was thinking. I don't want to measure what it is, I want to verify that it's where it should be. Plus, that type of gauge certainly wouldn't work for an impeller although I am sure something could be thought up along those same lines that would.

From www.impros.com faq:

Q. Does the number that my impeller is labeled mean that is literally the pitch of my impeller?
A. Not exactly. The numbers refer to the outer blade angle of each impeller blade. Although commonly used in this industry, the word pitch does not apply to a PWC impeller the way it does a boat propeller. Where the pitch on a boat prop refers to the distance the unit moves forward per revolution, PWC impellers use numbers that reflect the outer blade angle, which identify how aggressive the impeller is, and also as stated in the question is a "label" to distinct between other labeled impellers for ease in applying each impeller to a particular watercraft. The number of that angle cannot always be taken literally, because all of the impeller manufacture's today have been known to slightly change an angle or length of the blade to optimize performance, and not change the ID of the impeller because the label of that impeller is already known to perform with certain characteristics on certain watercraft. This is one of the most important reasons that you will benefit by purchasing your impeller from us, and sending your damaged impeller to Impros for service, we understand the differences between each manufacture, and assure the pitch to returned to factory specs- not to that of some type of angle device or boat prop gauge.

Q. Does Impros use correct pitching techniques specific to each brand of impeller?
A. Yes, Impros is proud of our ability to pitch each brand impeller to the manufacture's specific range of blade angle variation. Impros has a master gauge for every stainless steel impeller made, assuring an accurate pitch and uncompromised performance, eliminating common guesswork. Each and every manufacturer builds the impeller geometrically different from one another, and gauges the outer blade angle in a different way. Only a company with experience will accurately understand, manipulate and repair the blades of the impeller to its original state.

From the sounds of this, maybe what I want isn't feasible. And that something like below really wouldn't be worth a damn, which is what I am looking for:

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#ZERO

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Here are some better pitch gauges that you can print out on a piece of 8.5x11 adhesive clear paper using your printer and paste onto some clear acrylic tubing.
 

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Dustin Mustangs

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I love this site!

Really, you don't have to put it on tubing do you? Can't you just hold it up to the prop and have a look as long as they are squared up and conforming to the outer circumference?
 

#ZERO

Beach Bum
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Florida - U.S.A.
You need a piece of acrylic tube with the inside diameter close to the exact size of the impeller to obtain good readings.

If you need a piece of acrylic tube I still have some left over in the 144mm size for a small price.

I've now switch to a digital gauge with a custom bubble balance centering stand because it's way more accurate and you can measure the pitch & rake to a tenth of a degree at various locations.
 

Dustin Mustangs

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What's funny to me is that with all the info out there on impeller pitch, even on impros site, I have yet to see someone come right out and say pitch is just the angle of the leading and trailing edges. I thought there was some magic science going on here. That is certainly what the info from impros site I quoted above would lead you to believe. Turns out it's not exactly rocket science. Learn something new everyday I guess...
 
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The last thing that the "pros" want to see is their customers doing the work themselves. They have little to worry about since this hobby/sport has such a high turnover rate. I am surprised that prop specs are not often spoken of considering that current engine/pump setups have been worked out for a long time.
 
Its funny when you use cheap tools, you get the results you paid for. The WATCON pitch guage is a great tool if you use it as just a starting point. Just get and use it. Save your self agony and your friends (who told you a cheaper way) will want to use it. The various companies use different points of reference for their impellors. Use the guage to make adjustments and check that the blades are all the same. Don't call Impros's /Skat Trak and tell them their pitches are wrong, just say "on your WATCON guage" you tried this pitch and got this result and go from there. Whatever pitch is marked on the impellor is fine, all you want to know is how it works for your setup. Try bending the trailing edge, see what the result is then the leading edge. Its all cut and try. Get the WATCON guage, make is simple and straight forward.
 
The Watcon pitch gauge is intended to be used as a "reference tool" only, and does not match the way Skat-Trak, Impros, and most other impeller manufacturer’s measurement methods. The intent of the gauge is to be able to evaluate the difference between the impellers you have on the workbench, and/or use it to make minor alterations to your existing impeller.

Quote from my instructions;
This impeller gauge is used as a personal reference tool. You can check your existing angles; verify accuracy between blades and use as a height/pitch gauge.

This gauge does not reference directly to any manufacturers rating systems, but you can measure an existing impeller and record the specifications before sending your impeller to a specialist for alterations. It’s much easier for the impeller tuners if you can supply them with specific information and change requests. They will appreciate a request such as “let’s add one degree to the trailing edge” as opposed to “my motor revs too high”

There are many different procedures involved besides bending or “tweaking” an impeller, but this valuable tool allows you to monitor and track your progress.

Regards,
Randy
 
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