blowsion da kine footholds

[2006superjet]

blowsion sells the DAKINE Hardware Kit 20$
is that just the washers and bolts deal

and should i get the DAKINE Supremo Footstrap or just the DAKINE ProForm Footstrap


i am going to run 1 and want to just do it right. any insides would be nice

i have searched but kinda still wanting to have a sano install and just buy it not shop and getto rig somthing.

pics and comments on the blosion stuff would be nice. any other detailed install pics/locations

 

[Shonuff]

Blowsions hardware is an insert that threads into a pilot hold you drill into your tray.

It inserts and is epoxied in (they supply the epoxy as well) and the interior of the insert is threaded for bolting the strap down.

I just did one of my SX-Rs and it turned out pretty nice.

I can get you some pics if you would like.

 

[cattledog]

Blowsions hardware is an insert that threads into a pilot hold you drill into your tray.

It inserts and is epoxied in (they supply the epoxy as well) and the interior of the insert is threaded for bolting the strap down.

I just did one of my SX-Rs and it turned out pretty nice.

I can get you some pics if you would like.

if it is not to much problem i would like to see pictures want to install on x2 and blaster thanks

 

[2006superjet]

nice sounds like it is super solid ya pics of install if you got them would be great

 

[Shonuff]

Gotcha.

I'm not sure if I erased my install photos but i can always go to the garage and snap a new one of the finished product. I'll do it tomorrow for you.

 

[Shonuff]

So the install kit consists of a tube of Plastic Weld and some self-tapping knife-thread hex-drive with-flange inserts. You drill a hole in the tray, fill it with the mixed Plastic Weld, and screw the insert in hoping to not strip the hex head insert.

Here's my install:

 

[Shonuff]

The interior of the insert is threaded and the straps are bolted down into them.

 

[#ZERO]

I prefer to glue the mounting hardware on top of the fiberglass so there's no possibility of water going inside the foam section.

Also if you drill a hole near the pump housing you might go all the way through the other side because the tray sits directly on top.

 

[Shonuff]

I was prepared to do the acorn-on-a-fender install but Blowsion suggested otherwise with the kit they went me. So . . . I did it their way. Time will tell. I didn't perforate the pump area from the tray with my drilling so I guess it should be OK. I certainly understand your concern.

 

[brett]

heres how i did it. halfway down the page. stanless plates,epoxy, filler, glass. tap the holes for bolts and your set
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/16751&page=5

 

[hangtime]

You can get brass threaded inserts at most hardware stores I've used them in the past to fix ride plate bolt inserts .About 3 bucks at the hardware store for 4 inserts and bolts

Thats the best Blowsion could come up with after months of time .

 

[2006superjet]

i would hate do cut a huge hole in my turf and also hate glass work prob go with the blowsion way and fig if its epoxyed real good and nothing strips i should be good on one front hold.

 

[2006superjet]

inserts expoxied in sound good and brass is strong what lenghts do i need to work with the da kine

 

[#ZERO]

I found these stainless thread inserts with a round base at Ace hardware, Lowes and McMaster-Carr part number 90860A107

You want to use the 10/32 size with 3/8" length screws and just epoxy them to the tray.

 

[2006superjet]

I found these stainless thread inserts with a round base at Ace hardware, Lowes and McMaster-Carr part number 90860A107

You want to use the 10/32 size with 3/8" length screws and just epoxy them to the tray.

very nice simple and epoxy will hold those down. do the protrude out too much

 

[Shonuff]

very nice simple and epoxy will hold those down. do the protrude out too much

If anything, they'll protrude in a place your foot will probably never be.

 

[#ZERO]

The DAKINE Supremo Footstraps have a rubber end that fits over the stainless barrel that's the same height and then the stainless plate bolts on top with 10/32 pitch 3/8" length screws for a perfect fit.

They almost work too well and give the impression of being like they should almost come with the straps.

 

[kawyjunki]

I'm wanting to put a set of these on my blaster as well. I was just reading this thread and got to wondering how much force these will take. Will these rip out? I have never used this type of foothold before. I've always had the glassed in style like diggers.But thats not very feesable on a blaster as we all know. Just don't want to get it all done and be rippin on them and yank one or both out. Have any of you experienced this problem with these.

 

[dbrutherford]

You know I must say Blowsion doesn't impress me much on this one...

When I did my Dakines on my X2, I used some of those "hull insert" repair kits that all the PWC Parts catalogues carry. It is basically the same exact thing as what they gave Shonuff. Only instead of having the hex head in the insert, you have to double up a nut and bolt to thread them into the hole.

I drilled a hole into my tray, too a dremel and hogged out all the foam best I could. Then I filled the hole with JB Weld Marine epoxy and threaded in the insert.

I let the epoxy cure overnight and installed the Dakines. I used the Dakine Proforms and the Dakine Twist Lock prevention pieces. I recommend them as they look as if they will prevent the material on the straps from wearing some. For the outside bolt, I just drilled through the bond flange and used a bolt/nut. This only works for an X2 and won't work on a stand up.

But here is my advise: if you use the kind of insert like Shonuff did, use a long bolt threaded all the way into the insert and tighten a nut against it. Once installed into the tray, leave the bolt in place! I took my bolt out so I could use it to install the other side and the JB Weld started oozing out of the hole! I had to work to clean out the JB Weld or else it would have filled the inside of the insert up! Once the JB weld was hardened, I used a drill and drilled the JB Weld out of the insert. Then I chased the insert with my tap that fit the inside threads. I was scared the whole time that I was going to break free the insert.

Also bear in mind that theJB weld is in an area where it may not cure for some time. There isn't a lot or air in there. I am not sure the reactions of the epoxies you will use but you want to make sure that it is fully cured before bolting on your straps.

If I was to do it all over again, I would epoxy a 1/2" wide x 1/4" thick x 2" long aluminum pieces to the hull. This way you can drill multiple hoes and adjust your straps as necessary.

I played around a bunch with where I wanted to put my straps. in the end... I put them too far forward. They work where they are but I wish I put them more in the rear. It happens. Bummer is now I have a hole and an insert inside my hull where there once wasn't one...


Oh yeah as for Blowsion... I callled them wanting to buy some epoxy and/or fiberglass to install the straps. Well I told them how I planed on mounting them. The guy there told me that he doubted my method would work and they would pull out! And look what they are selling.... You decide how you want to mount your straps. I would rather epoxy a piece of metal to your tray that you can always remove rather than go putting holes in your hull!

 

[tom21]

#0's way is much more sano and it holds up just fine. done it on a few skis that see surf and so far none have popped off. he also took some thin stainless and drilled holes to mount the insert into and it makes the bonding area even larger if you doubt just the insert will hold. this is how all the ones I have done are installed. epoxy it on and your good to go. later if you need to remove em chisel gets em off and you can clean em up and reuse it.

Thanks #0 - this is the best and cheapest way to do this IMO.