Apology from SBT

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showmepro1200

ISJWTA Member #007
Mouthfullofcake,

You need to keep your membership over there and direct all of the good people from over there to this site.

Contact them and let them know exactly what Brian and SBT are all about.

Obviously don't contact them via PM rather contact them through email.

But pms are private I thought.....oh wait, we've already been here before haven't we?? :rolleyes:

Man, I go away to work for a day and come back to find the other site has had a visit from the "cleaner".....:sneaky:
 
That jerk-off has been watching this site like a hawk since this all came to light.He will never,ever live up to what he has caused.All he has to do is keep sanitizing his site of negative posts for the next few days,then all these issues will have never existed-in his eyes!
But there is nothing he can do about what has already spread to other sites,as he can't delete/hide the real story on sites he doesn't control!
Letting this die down here on this site,and others,will only swell his already
oversized ego.We can never let him think he got his way with this one.

There is no doubt that PWCToday will continue on and SBT will continue to sell engines. Honestly I don't wish any ill harm against SBT. I wonder if the owner of SBT even knows what really is going on.

For all we know Brian is sitting in his cubicle right now trying to cover all this up and keep it from his boss.

I'm picturing some fat piece oh sh*t with greasy fingers pounding away at a keyboard as he stuffs his face full of funyons sweating because this is the biggest workout he has had in weeks.

When the owner of SBT realizes or if he ever realizes how much business Brian cost SBT he would be a complete idiot to not fire Brian.
 

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
Mouthfullofcake,

You need to keep your membership over there and direct all of the good people from over there to this site.

Contact them and let them know exactly what Brian and SBT are all about.

Obviously don't contact them via PM rather contact them through email.

I will drag the few remaining freinds I have over there, most have been here already, just reluctant to leave, ALL I think have had a go round with the naZi admin over there before.
 

ski4

gonzo
Location
cleveland
i really would like to see if the owner of sbt is aware or cares even
maybe that is what all the silence was about and bryan had to wait till monday to get the bosses approval on how to respond to all of this stuff
 

550 SLUT

BORN TO FISH NOT CATCH
Location
PETALUMA, CALI
javiert99




this makes no sense under Site Guidelines - Everyone Please Read
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?p=659469

it states
LEGAL
Posts of a libelous nature are not allowed under any circumstances. If you have first-hand knowledge of a person/product/business and have a problem, that is perfectly fine to post about. If you do not and are simply 'fanning the flames' you need to take your comments elsewhere or to a legal venue.

i think we have a serious problem over there javiert99 and all the other people that got banned is BS.

i always though that sbt was a sub-par company. if u want work down on any watercraft motor GROUP K is the only place to go. i have never heard in the 15 years i have been riding a problem with K.

jut my .02
 

Rickster

Matakana Menace
Soooo.....

Does this latest broad banning incident mean the board members at the X are going to be a little more receptive to couchers?:dunno:

I think the 'sit to ski, sit to pee' attitude is keeping a lot of newbies from staying here...:frown:

I originally went to PWCToday looking for knowledge when I had two couches, found the knowledge, so hence I stayed. The X has the knowledge to be what PWCToday once was, but the holier than tho attitudes need to go.

my $.02 worth:rolleyes:
 

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
I hope that isnt the way it is.

Does it appear that way?

hmm, maybe a few really vocal folks make it appear that way.

I currently own more couches than standups.

oh shiat, did I saw that outloud!

:sneaky:
 
"SBT (owner of PWCTODAY) lacks the decency to deal with its customers in an intelligent, respectful manner. The forum is used to launch bashing attacks against legitimate but tactfully addressed (by a customer) apparent lack of quality. They monitor private messages, ban members of the forum whose opinions do not match their own including opinions expressed about them on other forums whether in jest or serious. If you as a customer of SBT are willing to tolerate such personal attacks, then buy from them. The complete lack of care, business ethics, and arrogant disrespect of some of its former members will eventually be its undoing. By the way, there is proof of these violations, so therefore none of what is stated above is libelous. I hope to see a new competitor rise up out of this flagrant misuse of a once liked forum. For those that have followed events of the last week, there is another forum out there (an alternative to the self serving iron fisted SBT forum. Long live X-H20………..

Because of all of this…..I will NEVER purchase anything from SBT….and will recommend against anyone considering purchasing your products…..ooloo

FREEDOM OF SPEECH GUARANTEES THAT I MAY HAVE AN OPINION AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THAT OPINION WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

You SBT owe a lot of people, longtime contributors, and ME a SINCERE apology…..not like the lame backstabbing apology you gave JAVIERT99. By the way for those that read this, SBT has deleted all of the threads so the proof is elsewhere…..all you have to do is ask.

Thank you for taking the time read this…… this is just an opinion based on fact that is NOT shared or reflected by SBT so therefore will be removed as quickly as they can.

X"
 

ski4

gonzo
Location
cleveland
i do agree with rickster. and have all along about this segregation issue of standups and "couches" over here.
and agree that said attitudes prevents people from coming to this site
onthe otherhand this site is without a doubt geared to standup riders in it's nature since it's inception

is there a way to open this up to couches and keep things the same? i think so
 
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Nascency Chris

The Nascency Project
I really have no comment on any of this...just an FYI. Here is a list of just some of the folks banned from PWCT. I don't think this is a full list because lots of the threads and posts have been deleted over there.

wavedemon
'crockett
ph20craft
javiert99
jetskiMN
mouthfulloflake
thajeffski
wetherby
4strokepolaristech
sirhc7897
matt E
hydrotoys
fly6584
jetskier79
grifnasty
turbo-spun
michaelart
swanny


umm add me to the list too please...i feel kinda wierd, never been banned before, anywhere...

funny thing is, i didn't do anything...i ribbed sbt a bit when he tried saying he would not moniter e-mails...then when i clarified that if they did read pm's they should inform people of that from the get go, like when they register...my internet goes dead for six hours (thanks comcast:banghead: ) and come back to find all of this...

all of this is absolutly retarded...
 

The Penguin

triple secret probation
"SBT (owner of PWCTODAY) lacks the decency to deal with its customers in an intelligent, respectful manner. The forum is used to launch bashing attacks against legitimate but tactfully addressed (by a customer) apparent lack of quality. They monitor private messages, ban members of the forum whose opinions do not match their own including opinions expressed about them on other forums whether in jest or serious. If you as a customer of SBT are willing to tolerate such personal attacks, then buy from them. The complete lack of care, business ethics, and arrogant disrespect of some of its former members will eventually be its undoing. By the way, there is proof of these violations, so therefore none of what is stated above is libelous. I hope to see a new competitor rise up out of this flagrant misuse of a once liked forum. For those that have followed events of the last week, there is another forum out there (an alternative to the self serving iron fisted SBT forum. Long live X-H20………..

Because of all of this…..I will NEVER purchase anything from SBT….and will recommend against anyone considering purchasing your products…..ooloo

FREEDOM OF SPEECH GUARANTEES THAT I MAY HAVE AN OPINION AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THAT OPINION WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

You SBT owe a lot of people, longtime contributors, and ME a SINCERE apology…..not like the lame backstabbing apology you gave JAVIERT99. By the way for those that read this, SBT has deleted all of the threads so the proof is elsewhere…..all you have to do is ask.

Thank you for taking the time read this…… this is just an opinion based on fact that is NOT shared or reflected by SBT so therefore will be removed as quickly as they can.

X"
someone needs to read up on what "freedom of speech" really means.
 

Turbo-Spun

Bada Bing!
Location
Lake Havasu
That jerk-off has been watching this site like a hawk since this all came to light.He will never,ever live up to what he has caused.All he has to do is keep sanitizing his site of negative posts for the next few days,then all these issues will have never existed-in his eyes!
But there is nothing he can do about what has already spread to other sites,as he can't delete/hide the real story on sites he doesn't control!
Letting this die down here on this site,and others,will only swell his already
oversized ego.We can never let him think he got his way with this one.

I agree, This guy needs to get kicked to the curb. I would say complain to sbt directly but who knows how that will go. I say f 'em. They build cheap junk with chinese parts and sell them to fellow PWC'rs. THERE is a REASON they have a NO FAULT WARRANTY. It's cheaper for them to give you a new motor that deal with all of the thousands of motors that let go.

As for bryan he's got big mans complex, and the mentality of a 4 y.o. I hope he gets canned for this. And if I see him in Havasu ever I'll make sure to give him the cold shoulder. If he does ride skis hopefully it will be by himself for a while...
 

The Penguin

triple secret probation
That jerk-off has been watching this site like a hawk since this all came to light.He will never,ever live up to what he has caused.All he has to do is keep sanitizing his site of negative posts for the next few days,then all these issues will have never existed-in his eyes!
But there is nothing he can do about what has already spread to other sites,as he can't delete/hide the real story on sites he doesn't control!
Letting this die down here on this site,and others,will only swell his already
oversized ego.We can never let him think he got his way with this one.
why not ban his enitre IP and then he can't see this site :biggrin:

his IP was posted on some Polaris site in a discussion about ph2ocraft
 
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