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RRP is the definition of a fashion show nate, that's why:pancake:

how do you figure?

They make a nice product, but a poles a pole. RRP generates alot of their sales because of looks. If nobody cared about looks everyone would have AC poles. They came up with the whole idea of having a "tube" pole and now other companies are copying them because the look of their pole has proven itself. The RRP is heavy, bulky, and expensive, but yet people still buy it, because it looks nice. There are other poles out there that are just as strong for much less.

I give them props. They figured out what the consumer wants and are making a product to fit the bill.

Their hulls are flashy too, but I don't know enough about them nor have I seen one in person yet to comment.


then how can you make the comment of it being a fashion show if you havent seen one yet in person to make judgement on it?

i've seen quite a few aftermarket hulls in person : the superfreak hull, rickter, wamiltons carbon hull, tko hulls, an xft hull, eme signature series, the eme q8, rpot mod blaster hulls, mod shop Ultra250 mod hulls, WCF hulls. and hydrospace hulls

visual carbon is just that... visual carbon... its for looks anything can look flashy with a paint job or graphics...... strip the graphics off a ricketer hull or put it in primer guess what... its just another aftermarket hull design...

you can put a wild paint or graphics scheme on just about anything and call it flashy...

its personal preference
 
I am with QuickMick on this one... Scorn and Wavedemon have this one covered.... Is it me or do the welds on the Goose poles look like globs of recycled funtack from a 6th grade science project. A monkey could produce a better looking beads than the ones on those poles. Enough splashing parts and thinking your a hero, we could use a couple more guys that can come up with innovation not duplication... 99% sure most will agree...
 
This thread can pretty well be summed up as this:

If you aren't dumping at least 15k into your ski on RRP poles, specific brand hulls and huge stroker motors...then you will get told your ski is junk...the parts you used are junk.. Looks like I will never be part of the elite here..
 

Big Kahuna

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plus pole bracket, pivot bolt, steering, bars...

Uh, something is really wrong with your reasoning.

OK, you say your Goose Pole is 7 lbs or so. And the OEM is 30 lbs.

Yet, you come back and say that is with the pole bracket, Pivot bolt, steering, bars. So, lets compare apples to apples. Add the pole bracket, Pivot Bolt, Steering, and Bars to the Goose Pole also.


Credibility. When you say something, have the facts to back it up. If you spout off stuff and qualify your comment with "I dont really know", then your Credibility just got tossed out the window.

You like the Goose Pole. Great. People say it is strong, dont think one person has said is was not strong. Goose even stated that it was not the best looking part. He builds them to be functional. That black one looks like it has had the welds ground and then painted or powdercoated. His other parts may work, but the fit and finish has alot to be desired. If your going to build, manufacture and sell something. It needs to look like a top shelf product unless you openly state that the manufacturing process is based on function over form. That being the case, if his poles are fugly as hell but work, and the gig he uses to build them up is straight then there is no issues. But one of the problems here is that there are several that the pivot bolt area and the main body is crooked causing the poles to not sit down the center of the hood. AC Poles have this same issue with some of them.
 

Big Kahuna

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They make a nice product, but a poles a pole. RRP generates alot of their sales because of looks. If nobody cared about looks everyone would have AC poles. They came up with the whole idea of having a "tube" pole and now other companies are copying them because the look of their pole has proven itself. The RRP is heavy, bulky, and expensive, but yet people still buy it, because it looks nice. There are other poles out there that are just as strong for much less.

I give them props. They figured out what the consumer wants and are making a product to fit the bill.

Their hulls are flashy too, but I don't know enough about them nor have I seen one in person yet to comment.

Have you ever actually looked into the RRP poles? If you did you would see that the pole is not a tube pole for looks. It is because it was designed so you could adjust the lengh of the pole with a simple 10mm wrench. Yeah, the poles are heavier do to all the extra material needed to make this adjustable. With that adjustability comes a higher price.
 

Big Kahuna

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This thread can pretty well be summed up as this:

If you aren't dumping at least 15k into your ski on RRP poles, specific brand hulls and huge stroker motors...then you will get told your ski is junk...the parts you used are junk.. Looks like I will never be part of the elite here..

If that is the case, then just about every ski by every member of this site is junk then. There are not many who are sinking 15k into thier ski's. Only maybe 5-10. And of those I would say half are sponsored riders who hare getting a whole lot of help.
 

WFO Speedracer

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This thread can pretty well be summed up as this:

If you aren't dumping at least 15k into your ski on RRP poles, specific brand hulls and huge stroker motors...then you will get told your ski is junk...the parts you used are junk.. Looks like I will never be part of the elite here..

Its not really about money its about quality,I will give you a prime example,look at zoom's build on his 650 SX,especially look at the handlepole he built on it.I don't think there is a person here that would call Zoom's ski junk,the handlepole looks awesome,you can tell he put a lot of time and effort into that ski and it shows,conversely when I look at some of the stuff Goose is putting out I am not seeing the quality and unlike Zoom he is offering them for sale to the public,I don't get it.
 
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QuickMick

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This thread can pretty well be summed up as this:

If you aren't dumping at least 15k into your ski on RRP poles, specific brand hulls and huge stroker motors...then you will get told your ski is junk...the parts you used are junk.. Looks like I will never be part of the elite here..

Thats total bulllllony. I have made lots of my own parts and I think they look pretty good and didnt cost much to make.

http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/61197
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/64747&highlight=fuel+cell
 

WaveDemon

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This thread can pretty well be summed up as this:

If you aren't dumping at least 15k into your ski on RRP poles, specific brand hulls and huge stroker motors...then you will get told your ski is junk...the parts you used are junk.. Looks like I will never be part of the elite here..

I whole hartedly dissagree with that stated statement. look at my build thread.
http://x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=32299

I assume if you have an expensive ski you can't ride until proven otherwise.
 

kraqus

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That was the missing Link.....Thanks BK!
I read all of it. I don't know who this goose guy is, hell I may even buy some of his parts if I thought it was a great deal and what not, But one thing I cannot deal with is lack of responsibility and integrity.

If you are so busy you can't take care of the next customer then don't. Taking the money and delaying the goods is unacceptable and if you do and then agreed to a deadline then MEET that deadline.

I will still stand by newcomers and check their products and give you a fair opinion However if your business practices suck, I will make you famous myself.


Benny
 
That black one looks like it has had the welds ground and then painted or powdercoated.

I received mine in the raw form I expected it to be in and got the welds smoothed out and powdercoated for an extra $100. I'm using a WDK bracket and Xmetal steering so I can't comment on the other parts.
 
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