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brett

brett

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i know these guys have a good rep but i didnt have a great experience with them. im building a budget surf ski for my brother and the guy i bought the ski from threw in a skat 9/17 impeller. i called up impros and told them what the ski was and what prop i had. i asked them to re-pitch it to what they would recommend for a stock 701 that will be ridden in the surf and would maybe get a pipe someday. they said ok and that it would cost 50-70 dollars. i got the prop back and it looked great. then i saw that the bill was 89 dollars for the work and 9.44 for shipping (which cost me ~4.35 to ship to them nbd.) then i gave them a call and asked what pitch they set it to, and they said they left it a t a 9/17 cause thats what they would recommend! the thing was in good shape, completely runable.

im on a tight budget as it is and just wasted a 100 bucks for nothing.
 
oxnard111

oxnard111

Creative RE Purchasing
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brett said:
i know these guys have a good rep but i didnt have a great experience with them. im building a budget surf ski for my brother and the guy i bought the ski from threw in a skat 9/17 impeller. i called up impros and told them what the ski was and what prop i had. i asked them to re-pitch it to what they would recommend for a stock 701 that will be ridden in the surf and would maybe get a pipe someday. they said ok and that it would cost 50-70 dollars. i got the prop back and it looked great. then i saw that the bill was 89 dollars for the work and 9.44 for shipping (which cost me ~4.35 to ship to them nbd.) then i gave them a call and asked what pitch they set it to, and they said they left it a t a 9/17 cause thats what they would recommend! the thing was in good shape, completely runable.

im on a tight budget as it is and just wasted a 100 bucks for nothing.
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did you speak directly with Dave? that doesn't sound right.
 
Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

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An estimate is just that. you need to call and find out what they actually did. It may have come from the factory saying it was a 9/17 when in fact it may have been 9/9/10 x 16/17/6 and they trued it to a 9/17. I had a company that is now out of business do my first solas, prop, that thing was so far from being accurate it was not funny. They may have had to do some welding to get the blades back out to the true diameter.

Give Dave a call.
 
onesojourner

onesojourner

I use a thumb throttle.
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springfield, mo
I totally disagree the estimate was 50-70 bucks. if it was going to be more than 70 bucks they should have called and explained that it would cost more and why it was going to cost more. they also should have told you before you sent it off the 9-17 was actually what they recommended for a surf boat.
 
brett

brett

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onesojourner said:
I totally disagree the estimate was 50-70 bucks. if it was going to be more than 70 bucks they should have called and explained that it would cost more and why it was going to cost more. they also should have told you before you sent it off the 9-17 was actually what they recommended for a surf boat.
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my thoughts excactly. i know they have a good rep and the prop looks brand new its just i dont think it was necessary and i woulda like to have known upfront
 
brett

brett

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Mouthfulloflake said:
Did you agree on the re-pitch before hand?

what were you told it would be re-pitched too?
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i asked for a re-pitch to whatever he thought would be ideal, he didnt tell me what it would be. i called after i got it back to see what he pitched it too and he said he didnt change it at all.
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

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what did he do then that cost so much?

I would agree with you, and probably be unhappy about how that went.

I have to say, I have dealt with Dave, and been VERY happy.
There must have been a communication breakdown somehow.
 
IMPROS

IMPROS

Location
So Cal
I hate to bring a negative thread back to the top when a simple phone call would have answered your question Brett.

If you remember, you called and said you wanted to send an impeller in for a repitch. It got here, rock damaged (not destroyed, but in need of repair), the blades were off, and the diameter was .050" small. Our repair prices are on our site, and have not changed in years. It needed welding and remachining back to new spec (5.665"). I let you know that is was worn, and needed welding. Based on the info you gave for the ski, and the type of impeller you had ( a Skat Std impeller), I suggest a 9/17. Any lower it will beat your rev limiter. The fact that I didn't CHANGE the name or repitch it completely is beside the point. In your case, I felt that correcting the pitch was best. The impeller would cavitate and perform poorly because of the large gap between it and the housing, and the blade pitch was off from the damage (or previous repitch attempt).
By the way, we keep all the notes with the work order.
Per your note. "This impeller has supposedly been repitched already, but I have no idea if it is a 9/17 Skat".

There's no fast one being pulled on you here Brett. You now have a virtually brand new impeller (tight in the pump, at a good accurate pitch) and refinished and balanced for less than $100.00. You left it up me to pitch it for your application. Run it. If you don't like it CONTACT ME. That's the right pitch for your stock ski using that design impeller. That's the best way to get results, before you get on the internet and try to smear a company's good name.
David Stewart
Impros




brett said:
i know these guys have a good rep but i didnt have a great experience with them. im building a budget surf ski for my brother and the guy i bought the ski from threw in a skat 9/17 impeller. i called up impros and told them what the ski was and what prop i had. i asked them to re-pitch it to what they would recommend for a stock 701 that will be ridden in the surf and would maybe get a pipe someday. they said ok and that it would cost 50-70 dollars. i got the prop back and it looked great. then i saw that the bill was 89 dollars for the work and 9.44 for shipping (which cost me ~4.35 to ship to them nbd.) then i gave them a call and asked what pitch they set it to, and they said they left it a t a 9/17 cause thats what they would recommend! the thing was in good shape, completely runable.

im on a tight budget as it is and just wasted a 100 bucks for nothing.
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brett

brett

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i wasnt tryin to smear a good name, and i thank you for the response. i just think you should have told me from the get-go that this was the pitch that was necessary for my project. look, i blame myself for not doing the research, but you yourself said it would be a 70 dollar job, and it turned out to be ~20 dollars more. with this thread i was doing no more than just warning other riders to be extremely specific as to what they are lookin for when modifying a prop.
 
Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

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Big Kahuna said:
An estimate is just that. you need to call and find out what they actually did. It may have come from the factory saying it was a 9/17 when in fact it may have been 9/9/10 x 16/17/6 and they trued it to a 9/17. I had a company that is now out of business do my first solas, prop, that thing was so far from being accurate it was not funny. They may have had to do some welding to get the blades back out to the true diameter.

Give Dave a call.
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Hey Dave, looks like I nailed it...... Do I get a prize...........:Banane13::bad3::haha:
 
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sflsurfrider

i just had dave repair an impeller for my jetmate. his pricing was very fair considering all the work he had to do and the final product exceeded my expectations.

dave is a kewl kat!
 
Tuttle

Tuttle

Location
Celebration, FL
IMPROS said:
I hate to bring a negative thread back to the top when a simple phone call would have answered your question Brett.

If you remember, you called and said you wanted to send an impeller in for a repitch. It got here, rock damaged (not destroyed, but in need of repair), the blades were off, and the diameter was .050" small. Our repair prices are on our site, and have not changed in years. It needed welding and remachining back to new spec (5.665"). I let you know that is was worn, and needed welding. Based on the info you gave for the ski, and the type of impeller you had ( a Skat Std impeller), I suggest a 9/17. Any lower it will beat your rev limiter. The fact that I didn't CHANGE the name or repitch it completely is beside the point. In your case, I felt that correcting the pitch was best. The impeller would cavitate and perform poorly because of the large gap between it and the housing, and the blade pitch was off from the damage (or previous repitch attempt).
By the way, we keep all the notes with the work order.
Per your note. "This impeller has supposedly been repitched already, but I have no idea if it is a 9/17 Skat".

There's no fast one being pulled on you here Brett. You now have a virtually brand new impeller (tight in the pump, at a good accurate pitch) and refinished and balanced for less than $100.00. You left it up me to pitch it for your application. Run it. If you don't like it CONTACT ME. That's the right pitch for your stock ski using that design impeller. That's the best way to get results, before you get on the internet and try to smear a company's good name.
David Stewart
Impros
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Nice tact in your response Dave. You get a :bigok: from me.
 
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