Interlux Paint from Yachtpaint.com

[adet16v]

I know a few of you have used this to paint your skis.

I am looking to paint my sn and rn this year.

I am planning on using Interlux Perfection (top deck) paint.

Today I called the manufacturer to ask for a recommendation from them on a primer and other prep tricks. Basically the only good information I got from the manufacturer was that I needed to use a 2 part primer with this paint.

The representative I spoke to instructed me under NO circumstances should I spray Perfection using a gun due to "very harmful chemicals"... he told me it should only be rolled on. I asked if he could recommend a cartridge for a respirator and he said that he could not and repeated that "under no circumstances should it be sprayed":thumbsdown:

From their website "Method of Application" it reads: Brush / Conventional Spray / Roller

So I know the guy is full of poop.

Can some of you who have used this stuff give me some tips on prep/primer/use sealer/how many coats/curing time/wet sanding etc. etc.

 

[robertg]

They have a two part primer that's made for the perfection paint. I haven't used it for a year but from what I remember you have to wet sand the primer because the sand paper will plug up. The two part will dry over night just like any other paint. I don't think it will polish very well, I think you will loose the shine if you try.

They have different types of thinners for spraying and rolling. I thought I mixed both of them together when I sprayed for some reason. I thought it flowed better. If you are painting a dark colour I would spray, a light colour I would roll. Definitely roll the primer.

I know the over spray is really dangerous to inhale, that's why they don't want you to spray. If you do spray, wear a respirator and hold your breath. I would do it outside.

I thought they had good instructions on their web site that you can download.

 

[robertg]

Download the perfection manual and bulletin on the Yachtpaint web site. Lots of good reading there.

 

[adet16v]

Thanks a lot for the pointers. I was looking around on their website last night but everything I came up with was for roll & tip application.

I will download the manual and bulletin from their website.

 

[adet16v]

They have a two part primer that's made for the perfection paint. I haven't used it for a year but from what I remember you have to wet sand the primer because the sand paper will plug up. The two part will dry over night just like any other paint. I don't think it will polish very well, I think you will loose the shine if you try.

They have different types of thinners for spraying and rolling. I thought I mixed both of them together when I sprayed for some reason. I thought it flowed better. If you are painting a dark colour I would spray, a light colour I would roll. Definitely roll the primer.

I know the over spray is really dangerous to inhale, that's why they don't want you to spray. If you do spray, wear a respirator and hold your breath. I would do it outside.

I thought they had good instructions on their web site that you can download.

Yes, they recommend mixing spray reducer and brushing reducer together 50% blend of each for spraying as a starting point.

You rolled your SJ the first time you did it correct? How would you say the finish compared to your second paint job that was sprayed. If I can avoid spraying I would like to, however I plan on painting red and black (dark colors).

 

[SQUARE JOEL!!!]

wedo said he had pretty good results with Kirker paint.

 

[robertg]

I would spray if I was doing dark colours. I know I sprayed and rolled my SJ but that was last year, my memory is failing me. The first few paint jobs that I rolled were white so I had some practice with an easy colour. Rolling is a lot cleaner and safer but it doesn't turn out as nice. I tried brushing but it didn't work out.

From what I remember about spraying it is you can really load it up without it running. I had more of an orange peel problem, but I think I mixed the paint too thick. After you turf the rails and put on decals you hardly see the paint anyway.

If you want an ultra high gloss show car finish, hire someone to paint it for you.

 

[adet16v]

Thanks for the input. I think I will roll the bottom halves and spray the top halves. I can spray them outdoors and then roll them into a booth for the paint to set up to avoid dust and debris.

I' m not concerned with a show finish due to the fact that I expect the paint to be damaged in the skis regular use. I'm more concerned with having something pretty durable that will last a couple of years at least. From what I have heard and what I have read this paint seems to be the next best thing to a factory gelcoat.

Another nice thing about it is any damaged areas could potentially be sanded down and repaired with a roller at a later date...

 

[yamanube]

I had decent luck rolling on a black paint job. I wetsanded it between coats and took my time and it turned out pretty good (for a non spray job) it definitly had visible orange peel but it was cheap, easy and done in my garage. I was happy with the way it turned out.

 

[Frosty]

I had decent luck rolling on a black paint job. I wetsanded it between coats and took my time and it turned out pretty good (for a non spray job) it definitly had visible orange peel but it was cheap, easy and done in my garage. I was happy with the way it turned out.

did you do the bottom like that? if so, how did it hold up to beaching etc? I will be looing to paint my entire ski this spring and was not sure if i was going to use interlux or DuPont Imron.

 

[woohoo]

Spraying Perfection

Guys,
I have read through all of your posts and I believe what Interlux is referring to is "Isocyanates" which are incredibly harmful to inhale. As with all polyurethanes which contain isocyanates the manufacturer will always recommend using a Postive Pressure Fresh Air System better known as a Air Fed Hood, with a fully enclosed fask mask to prevent any inhalation, to ensure that their products are being applied properly. I'm sure many people do spray that product with traditional respirators, but unfortunately the manufacturer would not recommend that or any related products, due to a health and safety stand point. Other than that Perfection is incredible and I highly recommend it, if you are going to roll and tip use a high density foam roller and china bristle or natural bristle brush.

 

[yamanube]

did you do the bottom like that? if so, how did it hold up to beaching etc? I will be looing to paint my entire ski this spring and was not sure if i was going to use interlux or DuPont Imron.

Actually I just primered the bottom and left it like that. It didnt hold up very well, not that I expected it too but after beaching it a few times it was back down to the purple on the areas that contacted the beach (the rest held up fine). I figured it would get rubbed off the bottom no matter how well I did it so I would save some time and just do one. I only had the ski for 3 months after painting it, it held up good for those 3 months, not sure what it looks like now.

 

[yamanube]

Few more, finished and dusty pics.

 

[yamanube]

Guys,
I have read through all of your posts and I believe what Interlux is referring to is "Isocyanates" which are incredibly harmful to inhale. As with all polyurethanes which contain isocyanates the manufacturer will always recommend using a Postive Pressure Fresh Air System better known as a Air Fed Hood, with a fully enclosed fask mask to prevent any inhalation, to ensure that their products are being applied properly. I'm sure many people do spray that product with traditional respirators, but unfortunately the manufacturer would not recommend that or any related products, due to a health and safety stand point. Other than that Perfection is incredible and I highly recommend it, if you are going to roll and tip use a high density foam roller and china bristle or natural bristle brush.

I would skip the brush entirely and agree 100% on the high density foam roller, that will give you a much smoother finish!!

 

[robertg]

Not all rollers will work also. You need one that will handle the harsh chemicals, otherwise it will fall apart.

 

[adet16v]

Does anyone know if the perfection can be sprayed with HVLP gun or does it require conventional type guns??

From their product bulletin it lists 2 binks bullows guns with recommended needles and tips etc. but not for anything else...

or is their an equivalent to these recommended guns/tips/needles that I can use?

 

[bign1514]

I am in the process of using Brightside top side paint. I am using the roll and tip method - very pleased with results. It say 2 coats.... i am trying for 5 coats. The paint levels itself out pretty good.

Do a search on google for spray recommendations. Or call interlux. Both perfection and brightside and be sprayed on.

 

[Crab]

I have been useing the regular topcoat they make, works fine for me. I did spray outside about 3 coats, with about 10-15 minute flash time in between. And yes my 12.99 Harbor freight HVLP gun worked awsome.

 

[adet16v]

thanks thats what I'm going with as well (harbor freight HVLP)

 

[Soul Man]

I believe what Interlux is referring to is "Isocyanates" which are incredibly harmful to inhale. .

Does anyone know if the perfection can be sprayed with HVLP gun or does it require conventional type guns???

+1 for woohoo. If INterlux has Isocyanates, that stuff is real bad. Regular cartridge filters do NOT filter out iso's and you need a positive pressure fresh air supplied hood/mask. "Holding your breath" is probably not the best way to deal with poisonous gas. Also you don't want to be spraying it in a crowded neighborhood. You may get away with a regular respirator, or you may wind up with permament damage to your lungs. If you are going to spray, you may be able to hire out a spray booth (better airflow/filters and they should have a fresh air system for your mask).d

Conventional v. HVLP shouldn't really matter for any paint. They both do the same thing, so if it is a sprayable paint the gun type doesn't really matter. Almsot all guns are HVLP nowadays (I think it is by law).