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restosud

who has bought from powersperformance on ebay?
I only ask because he had a base gasket listed for $5.00 plus $7.00 for shipping so i asked him if the shipping calculator was accurate.His reply was "if you don't like it,don't bid on it"
what kind of an answer is this to a legitimate question?
I guess i won't be buying :confused:
 
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Billy21bob

I sell on e-bay for a second income, many times I break even on stuff because you get r*ped with fees, charging extra for shipping is the only way to recoup them. i.e. listing fee, buy it now fee, gallery fee, extra picture fee, final value fee, and Paypal fee. It all adds up. If he sent the gasket priority it starts at $4.05 for 2-3 day shipping, and goes up from there depending on the weight. 1st class it would probably be $1.85 3-5 day. Yes, his answer was rude but, he knows that he won't make any money unless he puts that the gasket weighs 2.5lbs. Hope this shed some light for ya. -Ryan
 
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Billy21bob

WAB said:
If you are the seller those are your fees, NOT the buyers....
I hate price gouging on shipping
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Bot trying to pick a fight here but...

No they are the buyers fee even though the seller is required to pay them, people aren't going to sell stuff if they aren't making money from it, it's just the way it is. Sellers aren't just going to absorb the all the fees, that thought is asinine.

Ebay doesn't call it shipping and handling though they should because when people like you hear shipping you forget about handling all together. Shipping is the price you pay USPS, say $4.05 priority and handling needs to cover the boxes, tape and packing material say 2.95 (box or envelope, bubble wrap, tape). Add them up and you have 7.00 for shipping on a gasket, not including any fees. One small padded yellow envelope size 2 is $1.50 alone!! I'm not saying that some people aren't ridiculous with shipping but even though that guy is an ass, he is in the right. It's business.
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
Actually BillyBob,

the ARE the sellers fees, the cost of doing business is the SELLERS responsibility.

You build your pricing to cover your cost of doing business, this is why many people fail at businesses, or dont make any money, they cant accuratly capture the actual cost of what they are selling.

I understand your plight, it costs you money to advertise and ship, but EBAY is likely cheaper than any other form of advertising you are likely to find.

I also agree that the person that was the target of this post, answered ina most unprofessional manner, I would not ever buy from a prick like that.

I also dont play the FAT shipping charges game.

make the price of the product cover all of your 'fees' ship it at a market value price, and go from there.

profiting from the shipping and handling is despicable, make your profit from the product price.



Billy21bob said:
No they are the buyers fee even though the seller is required to pay them, people aren't going to sell stuff if they aren't making money from it, it's just the way it is. Sellers aren't just going to absorb the all the fees, that thought is asinine.

Ebay doesn't call it shipping and handling though they should because when people like you hear shipping you forget about handling all together. Shipping is the price you pay USPS, say $4.05 priority and handling needs to cover the boxes, tape and packing material say 2.95 (box or envelope, bubble wrap, tape). Add them up and you have 7.00 for shipping on a gasket, not including any fees. One small padded yellow envelope size 2 is $1.50 alone!! I'm not saying that some people aren't ridiculous with shipping but even though that guy is an ass, he is in the right. It's business.
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restosud

i agree with mouthfull.why is it that the local dealer can sell the same gasket for a little bit less including shipping for special order,sales tax and his dealership overhead(which i would think is much higher than an e-store) and still make a profit?
i realize that packaging,time,tape,etc all cost money but this should be included in your initial price listing.
 
Prem1x

Prem1x

Tinkering obsessed
Location
Austin, TX
You guys are arguing over semantics. The fees are there. How the seller chooses to recoup the fees are his own prerogative. Regardless of whether a listing fee is baked into the item price or shipping cost, the buyer is paying for it ultimately.
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
so what then is the purpose of over priced shipping?

if its not deceptive in nature, then why not just put it in the actual product price?



Prem1x said:
You guys are arguing over semantics. The fees are there. How the seller chooses to recoup the fees are his own prerogative. Regardless of whether a listing fee is baked into the item price or shipping cost, the buyer is paying for it ultimately.
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Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
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Mouthfulloflake said:
so what then is the purpose of over priced shipping?

if its not deceptive in nature, then why not just put it in the actual product price?
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All they have done is give the actual part a price then set a price for shipping and handling...........

If it is going to cost you $12.00 to get something whether you paid $10.00 plus $2.00 in shipping or $5.00 for the part plus $7.00 shipping........... You still paid $12.00.
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
yes, that is simple math, I can even understand that.

IF it actually costs them $7 to ship it, its not a problem.

ive played that game before, and gotten the package with a $1.85 postage sticker on it.

that is misrepresented, dishonest, and the type of business that I wont have any part of.




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All they have done is give the actual part a price then set a price for shipping and handling...........

If it is going to cost you $12.00 to get something whether you paid $10.00 plus $2.00 in shipping or $5.00 for the part plus $7.00 shipping........... You still paid $12.00.
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tursiops93

tursiops93

Location
San Antonio, TX
Maybe a stupid question...but how much would this gasket cost locally from a store/dealership? Are you still saving money after the price+shipping/handling off of eBay??
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
ronayers.com

6M6-11351-A2-00 GASKET CYLINDER

1
$6.87
$6.87

Subtotal $6.87
Standard Shipping $8.00
Total $14.87


riva

6M6-11351-A1-00 GASKET, CYLINDER $8.82 $8.82
SubTotal $8.82
Type of shipping & handling: Standard Shipping (5-10 days) $7.00
Total $15.82


tursiops93 said:
Maybe a stupid question...but how much would this gasket cost locally from a store/dealership? Are you still saving money after the price+shipping/handling off of eBay??
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Kny21

Kny21

Location
Delaware
I thought the shipping gouging was due to ebay taking a slice of the actual sale price, no?

ex. 10% fees off a $5 item w/ $10 shipping would be $.5 vs. 10% fees off a $10 item w/ $5 shipping would be $1
 
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Billy21bob

Mouthfulloflake said:
profiting from the shipping and handling is despicable, make your profit from the product price.
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I did not say that the aim was to profit on shipping I refuse to buy stuff from people trying to do so...I am saying that if you have an auction style listing you can always assume the product will go for what you want to cover fee, because it often doesn't.
If that guy bought the gasket a a retailer at retail prices and say he didn't want make a profit but was trying to get his money back because he couldn't use it.
Say he paid $14 even at the retail store. He then sold it on e-bay for $14 even including shipping to be competitive with stores and other ebayers.
Now, if shipping was $7 and the gasket was $7 he only made half of what he paid back. He is still $7 in the hole.
So say all the shipping money is consumed in shipping and packaging now. He has $7 from the gasket, and has to pay a listing fee of $1.30 he now has $5.70 then final value fee of $.68. He now has $5.02 then the Paypal fee of $.70. He now has $4.32.

All that work for around $4.32 wouldn't be worth it to me. But it is better than nothing. He isn't out there to make a killing on gaskets. Unless he got it at cost or can cut them himself. It all depends on how he ships them too, if he shipped the first class for $1.60, and charged $7.00 for shipping that would be bad because He would have his $7 for the gasket, and his $2.72 left for the shipping.


This shows you that because the fees end up coming out of the price of the item people raise the shipping so they will get their full $7 for their gasket opposed to the $4.32 they would get if the shipping was spot on.

Again I do not condone profiting on shipping but it seems like the way it is for the big sellers.
 
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