Carving SN

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Zeus87

Location
Upstate, NY
Looking for some advice here....

I started with a 650sx that I tossed a bunch of parts at (750 small pin, coffman pipe, top loader, etc...) anyway, I was getting it down than I had an opportunity to ride a superjet. Long story short I sold the 650sx 3 days later and picked up a bone stock original owner 91' superjet.

Rider: 6'2 210

Ski: 91' 61x 701
coffman sizzler
worx 201
ocean pro finned/extended ride plate
650sx steering nozzle
hooker 9/15
Xscream adjustable steering (set -3" from stock)
straight bars
rear sponsons

So i'm looking to get this thing "on rails", low speeds its great, but at higher speeds (above 25) I find it to be unpredictable. I find that I either slide out or lean too far? and cavitate. Any tips? Maybe someone can walk me through proper technique to get more out of this thing.... I rode a 2010 stock with a destroyer ride plate and it was night and day difference. Are the 08'+ really that much better for running buoys?

Thanks all
 
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Zeus87

Location
Upstate, NY
I might have to bite the bullet and get front sponsons...

650sx is a direct bolt on. Just rotate the steering socket 180 degrees and the ball will drop right in. Incredible difference, just make sure you have a good hood seal because it can turn on a time and put the hood under water really quick.

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theVetteman3

theVetteman3

Location
Chicago
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So i'm looking to get this thing "on rails", low speeds its great, but at higher speeds (above 25) I find it to be unpredictable. I find that I either slide out or lean too far? and cavitate. Any tips? Maybe someone can walk me through proper technique to get more out of this thing.... I rode a 2010 stock with a destroyer ride plate and it was night and day difference. Are the 08'+ really that much better for running buoys?

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Yea the 2008+ skis are just that much better for carving, buoys and racing. Stock to stock in my opinion the 2008+ is way more advanced than a sxr too. Better handling in a more fun, playful package. The sn and 97-07 rn are much better for turning flat and freestyle. The sn, near as i can tell, was designed to be ridden- raced flat. All you have to do is balance and stay on top of it, keeping it hooked up. Problem is that its really easy to lean it over and a quicker steering plate makes it easier still. I think you really need to mod a sn hull to get the most out of it.

From what i have seen the 96-07 rn have an easier time staying flat and with a turn plate are amazingly nimble flat turning skis, perfect for all sorts of tricks.

Coming from kawis i prefer the 08+ handling more. Especially with a few mods that reduce nose pressure just a tad and give you more steering. IE bars, d cut ride plate, KP steering nozzle adaptor.
 
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Zeus87

Location
Upstate, NY
theVetteman3 said:
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So i'm looking to get this thing "on rails", low speeds its great, but at higher speeds (above 25) I find it to be unpredictable. I find that I either slide out or lean too far? and cavitate. Any tips? Maybe someone can walk me through proper technique to get more out of this thing.... I rode a 2010 stock with a destroyer ride plate and it was night and day difference. Are the 08'+ really that much better for running buoys?

Thanks all
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Yea the 2008+ skis are just that much better for carving, buoys and racing. Stock to stock in my opinion the 2008+ is way more advanced than a sxr too. Better handling in a more fun, playful package. The sn and 97-07 rn are much better for turning flat and freestyle. The sn, near as i can tell, was designed to be ridden- raced flat. All you have to do is balance and stay on top of it, keeping it hooked up. Problem is that its really easy to lean it over and a quicker steering plate makes it easier still. I think you really need to mod a sn hull to get the most out of it.

From what i have seen the 96-07 rn have an easier time staying flat and with a turn plate are amazingly nimble flat turning skis, perfect for all sorts of tricks.

Coming from kawis i prefer the 08+ handling more. Especially with a few mods that reduce nose pressure just a tad and give you more steering. IE bars, d cut ride plate, KP steering nozzle adaptor.[/QUOTE]
I'm on the hunt for an 08' now haha... I will say, I can lay her over now, just takes a lot of effort.

I can snag a 08' local, but its shortened 4" (bottom hull only), lowered hood, tubbies and shortened pole. I assume that setup isn't going to be ideal for carving though.

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theVetteman3

theVetteman3

Location
Chicago
I can't imagine it would have the nose pressure to carve well, especially at medium to high speeds. I would like to try a shortened one, but that kind of defeats the purpose with that style hull.

By comparison if you shorten a 96-07 that's the starting point for a lot of aftermarket hulls. Stable and yet light and manuverable and you can get the nose up easier for all sorts of freestyle tricks.
 
fastgtfairlane

fastgtfairlane

Location
Charlotte, NC
i know where a bone stock 08 or 09 is for sale with very low hours. its in cornelius nc and i believe she wants 6k for it. my cousin actually bought it new and the current owner bought it off him. he sold it because he had a baby boy. she maybe rode it once and got injured and hasnt really ridden it since. i rode it once several years ago its a very nice unmolested superjet.
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/boa/6268749648.html craigslist ad. 6100 with trailer and cover
 
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Zeus87

Location
Upstate, NY
theVetteman3 said:
I can't imagine it would have the nose pressure to carve well, especially at medium to high speeds. I would like to try a shortened one, but that kind of defeats the purpose with that style hull.

By comparison if you shorten a 96-07 that's the starting point for a lot of aftermarket hulls. Stable and yet light and manuverable and you can get the nose up easier for all sorts of freestyle tricks.
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That's kind of what i was thinking. I'm hoping to check it out this weekend, I will report back if I end up taking it out.

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Zeus87

Location
Upstate, NY
fastgtfairlane said:
i know where a bone stock 08 or 09 is for sale with very low hours. its in cornelius nc and i believe she wants 6k for it. my cousin actually bought it new and the current owner bought it off him. i dont think she ever even got to ride it. kind of a long story but its pretty clean.
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Thanks for the lead. I'm hoping to stay around 4k, it seems like they sell for more stock so I'm hoping to capitalize on some tasteful modifications.

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fastgtfairlane

fastgtfairlane

Location
Charlotte, NC
no worries. you could always do some work to your sn hull and make it handle much better. adding tubbies, a good intake grate and ride plate and steering setup will make it handle 10x better. if you wanted to get more serious then truing the bottom of the hull will make it carve even better. truing the hull involves getting some 4in pvc, wrapping it in 80 grit sandpaper and going back and forth between the chines to eliminate high and low spots. it will also sharpen the strakes so the ski will track in a straight line better and hold better while you lay it over to carve.
 
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Zeus87

Location
Upstate, NY
fastgtfairlane said:
no worries. you could always do some work to your sn hull and make it handle much better. adding tubbies, a good intake grate and ride plate and steering setup will make it handle 10x better. if you wanted to get more serious then truing the bottom of the hull will make it carve even better. truing the hull involves getting some 4in pvc, wrapping it in 80 grit sandpaper and going back and forth between the chines to eliminate high and low spots. it will also sharpen the strakes so the ski will track in a straight line better and hold better while you lay it over to carve.
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I have been considering tubbies, the reason I am hesitant is resale value. I know I wont hold onto her forever (another season tops) and it seems people are more interested in stock skis.

I would love to ride one with them though, I guess if it made that much of a difference I would just have to get over the appearance of a square nose.

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Quinc

Quinc

Buy a Superjet
Location
California
I chopped 3" off the back of mine and added @CarterB tubbies and my SN carves awesome. Turns a lot harder with tubbies and you have to relearn how to control her.
 
mthomps

mthomps

Location
Cleveland
Zeus87 said:
Looking for some advice here....

So i'm looking to get this thing "on rails", low speeds its great, but at higher speeds (above 25) I find it to be unpredictable. I find that I either slide out or lean too far? and cavitate. Any tips? Maybe someone can walk me through proper technique to get more out of this thing.... I rode a 2010 stock with a destroyer ride plate and it was night and day difference. Are the 08'+ really that much better for running buoys?

Thanks all
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08+ hulls are much better at fast carving but in no way is your SN at fault for you not being able to do it. My advice is to find a buddy with a boat and ride their wake and try to keep up with the boat. Have them gradually go faster after you don't fall for a while. It's the best way there is to learn to ride fast.
 
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