SXR next step..... What mods?

[nicolajjetrider]

Hi

Im thinking about what parts would be good to mount on me SX-R.
Im using the ski to a lot of freeride but also a lot of track racing.

My setup is this now:

Removed Sensors
R&D TOP end 200PSI
Wet B-pipe
No Choke
R&D filters
Stock Impeller
Bored Exit nozzle
0" steering UMI
Blowsion Footholds
Blowsion 2 sponsors
Carbon Reinforced
Weigt reduced
Hood Straps
TBM Grate


What would you do as next step?

Im Thinking of a new rideplate in carbon. But what about the pole? is nad a need to have or nice to have?

 

[Big Kahuna]

Tbm plate.

 

[wanderer1]

TBM plate is nice but I'm partial to the Bullet Racing plate. If you're doing more freeriding then you're living on borrowed time with the stock pole. A lot of nice ones out there, the new Pro Watercraft pole has caught my eye. A/M hood is a good idea too, lightweight with more air and less water. I preferred no intake grate in the ocean albeit I was riding a Trinity EVO.

 

[djkorn1]

TBM plate is nice but I'm partial to the Bullet Racing plate. If you're doing more freeriding then you're living on borrowed time with the stock pole. A lot of nice ones out there, the new Pro Watercraft pole has caught my eye. A/M hood is a good idea too, lightweight with more air and less water. I preferred no intake grate in the ocean albeit I was riding a Trinity EVO.

-2 pole and SJ steering.
FLYWHEEL! HUGE GAIN ON LOWEND...go as light as possible. Kawi flywheels are WAY HEAVY! If $ is an issue, contact #zero on here.


Short as possible D Cut ride plate for jumping and freeride.
Long rideplate for carving.

 

[wanderer1]

Not sure why you replied to my post. Why -2? -2 for you but adjustable for the rest of us so we are not locked into one length. Steering might as well go WDK. Lightened flywheel is nice to but dropping 10+ pound and using air but losing water is a real big plus. To each his own. EDIT: Why would you imply that a lightened flywheel somehow is going to increase the torque output of the OP's motor? Lighter fylwheel might allow his motor to get "on the pipe" where the 2 stroke will make its real power,but doubtful that an actual measurable amout of power will be seen.

 

[TJR]

New Impeller. Contact Impros http://impros.com/store/ to get the best impeller for your needs.

 

[djkorn1]

Not sure why you replied to my post. Why -2? -2 for you but adjustable for the rest of us so we are not locked into one length. Steering might as well go WDK. Lightened flywheel is nice to but dropping 10+ pound and using air but losing water is a real big plus. To each his own. EDIT: Why would you imply that a lightened flywheel somehow is going to increase the torque output of the OP's motor? Lighter fylwheel might allow his motor to get "on the pipe" where the 2 stroke will make its real power,but doubtful that an actual measurable amout of power will be seen.

Sorry, didn't mean to reply to your post. Not good at ipad yet!

As far as the pole, I just meant shorter pole and some kind of SJ steering (I'm old school and forgot about adjustable poles...) WDK steering is kickass.

Lightened flywheel makes a HUGE difference in the low end on Kawis. He said he is going to be doing freeriding, so you need that hit between waves (well, at least where I ride).
For me, it was the biggest gain except for the pipe and hull. I run a Vilder Charging Aluminum. I'll never run a stock flywheel again. I love the on/off switch feel of a light flywheel.


Completely agree on the hood. Makes a big difference... I rode my old sxr with a Trinity hood and it felt much more nimble and took in much less water than a stocker.

 

[kx454]

Not sure why you replied to my post. Why -2? -2 for you but adjustable for the rest of us so we are not locked into one length. Steering might as well go WDK. Lightened flywheel is nice to but dropping 10+ pound and using air but losing water is a real big plus. To each his own. EDIT: Why would you imply that a lightened flywheel somehow is going to increase the torque output of the OP's motor? Lighter fylwheel might allow his motor to get "on the pipe" where the 2 stroke will make its real power,but doubtful that an actual measurable amout of power will be seen.

Not sure why you replied to this thread? Obviously a light flywheel will not add more hp....but it certainly changes the power characteristic to the op's favor. I went from a stock to jetinetics and now to an msd...if you can not feel the difference between those setups you have never ridden a ski before. Stock kawi flywheels are in the 6.5lb or more range....my msd setup is 1.9lbs...

 

[wanderer1]

I did it because I'm stupid. Tired of people talking about picking up "power" from a lightened flywheel. You must not have read the entire post where I stated that it will allow the drivetrain to "get on the pipe" where the motor can make its power. Something that can also be affected by improper pump tuning. But I guess I should've said it like you that it can change the motors characteristics and it would've been all good. I guess my TBM flywheel is not worthy of your almighty MSD. I can't wait to read your book so I won't be some dumb about 2 strokes anymore. I'll ditch my dry piped Kawi/DASA stroker and start riding your motors and feel some real power. Can you include where oil instructions too please? 10/40 work?

 

[kx454]

I did it because I'm stupid. Tired of people talking about picking up "power" from a lightened flywheel. You must not have read the entire post where I stated that it will allow the drivetrain to "get on the pipe" where the motor can make its power. Something that can also be affected by improper pump tuning. But I guess I should've said it like you that it can change the motors characteristics and it would've been all good. I guess my TBM flywheel is not worthy of your almighty MSD. I can't wait to read your book so I won't be some dumb about 2 strokes anymore. I'll ditch my dry piped Kawi/DASA stroker and start riding your motors and feel some real power. Can you include where oil instructions too please? 10/40 work?

Almighty msd you say? Why set up an MSD total loss with any other type of flywheel? Just because you can buy a dasa kawi motor does not make you an expert on "2 strokes". Not sure how name dropping a dry pipe and dasa is going to make it sound like you are an amazing engine builder. You are free to ride my dry piped, ported by yours truly SXR motor. It won't set the world on fire, but it puts a smile on my face while burning c12 call day.

 

[wanderer1]

You're right I'm name dropping. Doesn't change the fact that we both said the same thing in a different way and for some reason you called me out wondering why I replied to the thread like I didn't know anything. Guess I don't. Carry on with your wisdom. Maybe you could bring some more ideas that would help the OP since ya haven't yet.

 

[kx454]

Wisdom? You made it sound like a lightened flywheel is a waste. I rebutted saying that I believe they are a wise investment. So in all reality I am giving the OP useful information...you are talking about dropping weight, which is good, but 10lbs is not as helpful as an aftermarket flywheel. BTW I have my sxr under 300lbs with fuel...I've got a but if experience putting the chubby girl on a diet.

 

[Jetfiend]

I have my sxr under 300lbs with fuel...I've got a but if experience putting the chubby girl on a diet.

Do share, I would love to put my barge on a weight loss program..

My TBM charging flywheel made a huge difference in throttle response, but did not necessarily make my SXR any faster on the buoy course. It feels faster and gets on the pipe faster, but to my surprise when running with my buddies, I was right where I was before. I prefer the on/off switch powerband when running buoys, it works for me.

My Setup:
Wiesco Pistons
Factory Wet Pipe
Novi 40mm modified stock carburetors
Advent T3 with D23 curve set
TBM Charging flywheel
Solas Mag pump
Dynafly 13/22 cutback
TBM plate
Skat intake
milled stock head (170 psi)
56mph on radar

 

[kx454]

http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/97015-...odness-(top-and-bottom-deck-split)&highlight=

Or click the link in my sig. If you have any questions feel free to shoot me a pm

 

[kx454]

Do share, I would love to put my barge on a weight loss program..

My TBM charging flywheel made a huge difference in throttle response, but did not necessarily make my SXR any faster on the buoy course. It feels faster and gets on the pipe faster, but to my surprise when running with my buddies, I was right where I was before. I prefer the on/off switch powerband when running buoys, it works for me.


My Setup:
Wiesco Pistons
Novi 40mm modified stock carburetors
Advent T3 with D23 curve set
TBM Charging flywheel
Solas Mag pump
Dynafly 13/22 cutback
TBM plate
Skat intake
milled stock head (170 psi)
56mph on radar

As far as lap times I don't think the flywheel will help much. I think it helps more in the sense if you make a mistake it helps you keep your momentum, or if someone cuts inside of you in a turn it helps to pull with them. Same aspect as I have faster lap times on my 250f mx bike, but I'll be damned if I have to pass a 450 on a straight...chasing boats and such it makes a huge difference for the instant throttle response it provides.

 

[Jetfiend]

^ I love the instant power in the surf too.

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[wanderer1]

Wisdom? You made it sound like a lightened flywheel is a waste. I rebutted saying that I believe they are a wise investment. So in all reality I am giving the OP useful information...you are talking about dropping weight, which is good, but 10lbs is not as helpful as an aftermarket flywheel. BTW I have my sxr under 300lbs with fuel...I've got a but if experience putting the chubby girl on a diet.

If that's the way you took it I can't do anything about that. I explained more about its benefit than "it gives huge low end power". Then you come on like I'm not qualified to male the statement. What was in my explanation that was incorrect? As far as the hood you picked 1 out of the 3 benefits I brought up. Really chasing a circle here with you I guess being the expert. As far as lightening an SXR, you cut part of it off and put a lightweight hood on it. Should be lighter.

 

[kx454]

If that's the way you took it I can't do anything about that. I explained more about its benefit than "it gives huge low end power". Then you come on like I'm not qualified to male the statement. What was in my explanation that was incorrect? As far as the hood you picked 1 out of the 3 benefits I brought up. Really chasing a circle here with you I guess being the expert. As far as lightening an SXR, you cut part of it off and put a lightweight hood on it. Should be lighter.

Nowhere do you say "it makes huge low end power". I am not claiming to be an expert. I am saying I have tried a lot of combos to get my boat to where I like it. My hood has been cut apart and glassed to help slow down water intake.....I don't mention everything I do in detail...no one is that dumb.

As far as you saying it could be lighter...I would live for you to tell me how, without being strong/rideable for years of course. Relieving my ski of 80+ pounds was a big undertaking. I never weighed my ski stock but I have weighed customer boats. They have been anywhere from 373-391.... I would love to see you one up my boat. I don't want to sound cocky, or make it seem like I am the expert on this. But until you have a stock hulled SXR under 300lbs with fuel, do not talked like "it should be lighter"

 

[kx454]

It's funny you say all I did was shorten it and put a lightweight hood on it, please retread my thread lol

When you have this much of a mess in your garage, then you can talk a bit of shat lol

 

[wanderer1]

I now think I see the issue. Context is being lost somewhere here. I didn't state huge low end power, Korn did I was replying yo his statement. The should be lighter meant it should be lighter than stock with all the changes you made. Jeez you win. Continue losing context of statements on your own. This all started with us both saying that a light flywheel doesn't add power but allows motor to rev freely to get into the proper rpm range to make real power. You took things and quotes out of context and did what you did. I'm done you're the SXR/2 stroke king.