SXR ok. Greenies nice t-shirt.

[redrrocket]

http://skreened.com/environment/ban-jet-skis

ok.

it is a couch. but seriously. making a ugly t-shirt to dislike boating pisses me off.

someone should get their facts strait. i would like kawi to sue this bastard for brand defamation.

 

[redrrocket]

"You want to increase the supply of gasoline in the United States? Ban jet skis. Every year across the United States huge numbers of Americans haul jet skis along the highways to the water's edge, and then ride their personal watercraft around in circles, annoying everyone in sight with the annoying, mosquito-like buzzing sound these machines make." - Irregular Times


"If you have ever heard their high-pitched whine or witnessed riders harass birds and marine animals, you understand the harm that personal watercraft, also known as jetskis, can bring to our waterways and our enjoyment of them. Nearly 100,000 of these so-called "thrillcraft" are sold each year, and more than one million jetskis are currently in use in the United States. They move at speeds that can exceed 65 miles per hour, leaving in their wake a host of environmental and safety problems." - BluewaterNetwork


"Sometimes we go somewhere for the day to get away from them. It gets on your nerves. It drives you nuts." - Janet Anderson of Lake Chauncey


"After reviewing the literature on both jet ski emissions and the health costs of air pollution, we have estimated that air pollution from jet skis imposes at least $240 million a year in health costs to Americans." - Drowning in Noise


"Jet skis are fundamentally different than conventional motorboats, which are still allowed and are consistent with other uses of the critical habitat area and state park. An extensive review of the scientific literature regarding impacts of jet skis on wildlife has revealed that the characteristics of jet ski use make these vessels more disruptive to wildlife than other types of watercraft. Scientific observations of jet skis cite high noise levels, high speeds, erratic movements, activity in shallow water, and the tendency to be operated in groups." - Frank Rue, Commissioner, Alaska Department of Fish and Game

 

[Cannibal]

And what kind of mileage did that cargo ship get that brought those shirts over from China?

Fv(k!ing Hypocrites. I don't even want to get started on how hypocritical these a$$holes are that wear this s#!t. This S#!t pisses me off so bad.......trying to refrain......must...not...rant...

*EDIT* Ok, these shirts are made in the USA, it still doesn't take away the fact that until you make your life as "green" as it can possibly be, you have no right to try and make mine that way too. I'm in many ways 'green'. Heavily recycle, cut down waste, work 2.3 miles from home, avoid import products where possible (never shop at Wal-Mart), etc. Don't attack my way of life and I won't attack yours.

 

[Emm]

just think....every time you ride your ski you make a hippie cry. Feels better doesn't it?

 

[Cannibal]

I like that Emm

So let's start making these shirts.

 

[balsam lake glass cutter]

I'll take 5 of those hippie cry shirts. lets ban vw micro buses

 

[Yami-Rider]

well i ride a waverunner so i guess this doesn't apply to me and i don't think there are any gasoline boats that get very good gas mileage, so i guess we might as well ban them all. right? lol

 

[EXPERIMENTAL]

i am in no way putting down the big 38 foot cigarette racing boats, because i have ridden in them and they are are a trip. triple digit MPH on water is insane, but seriously i live next to village marina at the lake of the ozarks, and you can pretty much count the gallons being sucked down those big triple 575's. seriously besides a little noise sometimes, waverunners/jetskis do not pollute as much as larger boats. the only reason those greenies don't attack the guys with bigger boats is because they know those guys with big boats can afford a lot better lawyers than them.......end of rant (gasping for air)

 

[tom21]

http://skreened.com/environment/ban-jet-skis

ok.

it is a couch. but seriously. making a ugly t-shirt to dislike boating pisses me off.

someone should get their facts strait. i would like kawi to sue this bastard for brand defamation.

if they really want to protect the enviroment it should be "ban people" even hippies and environazis are killing the planet, they drive cars and produce waste and expell CO2. morons! lol

 

[227]

2-stroke enthusiasts are not anti environment, but the greenies certainly treat us as if we are. Every body wants a clean environment for themselves and there children. The big lie is that 2 strokes are the cause of all the environmental problems, when in actuality they exist in such small numbers that even though they are gross polluters they still have little effect on the environment. 2 strokes are an easy target though, so the greenies feel they've accomplished something by eliminating them. The jokes on them in the end though because when you put the blame on the wrong party you still haven’t done anything to fix the real problem.

 

[SJBrit]

What pisses me off about so-called environmentalists is the belief that as soon as you are running anything on electricity then you are some paragon of cleanliness. It never occurs to them that electricity has to come from somewhere, and that both nuclear and fossil fuel electricity production cause all sorts of environmental hazards! I don't know, but I would think that hydro-electric power is green (in the long run), but I did hear something about wind farms which I haven't been able to verify. Someone in the business told be that a wind generator, in its lifetime, cannot produce enough electricity to build another! When you take into account the energy it needs to mine the ore, smelt the steel, build the tower and cabling, and put it up, a wind generator is a net energy SINK not SOURCE. I wonder if anyone has run that analysis for a hydroelectric dam?

I'm all for environmental responsibility, but people need to get their facts straight before they start throwing stones. So few of then realize that they are in glass houses.... (Or are those greenhouses...?)

 

[Matt_E]

Hydro-electric turbines create a -ton more power than wind generators.

 

[JD_WWI]

darn, i thought this thread was going to be about a cool SXR T shirt.

 

[Cannibal]

Do those greenies realize their plug in electric cars are powered mostly by burning coal and natural gas, and by those "dangerous" nuclear plants.

 

[SJBrit]

Hydro-electric turbines create a -ton more power than wind generators.

Indeed, but they also require a -ton more energy to build them. I wonder how long they have to operate before they replace the energy it took to put them there? Only after that are they truly useful from an environmental standpoint.

 

[tightithrash]

im kinda a hippie and jet skis make me smile.......

 

[Matt_E]

Hydro-turbines typically run for decades. Because they are so massive and expensive, they get tech-upgrades a few times during their life time. They also get rebuilt.

 

[Emm]

im kinda a hippie and jet skis make me smile.......

pffttt....you are a bad hippie then!

 

[smoofers]

ON the topic of wind generators, I was forwarded a research article a while back (can't find it at the moment). It basically said that wind is so unreliable (even where places are normally windy) that windmills can only ever be relied on as supplemental electricity. They will never replace coal/gas/nuclear, as you can't increase wind powered generation to meet demand. Wind mills are just huge, expensive hippy monuments.

Edit: In the same article it talks about wind velocity vs power generated. The blades are so long on windmills that they MUST be governed to a maximum speed, which occurs at like a 15mph wind velocity. Any higher wind speed than that and the blades must either be stopped or braked to not overspeed and disintegrate. Just reiterating how useless and stupid wind generation is for mass electricity generation. Not to say they aren't viable for say a single family home... but they will never be useful for mass grid supply.

 

[SJBrit]

Hydro-turbines typically run for decades. Because they are so massive and expensive, they get tech-upgrades a few times during their life time. They also get rebuilt.

Like I said, I suspect hydroelectric power truly is green in the long run because of the sheer about of electricity produced and the reliable source of input energy. I'm told the jury is out on wind turbines.