Why do people hate on Krash?

[numer0us]

I've heard there's reliability issues but have never heard what exactly they are and if they are fixable or if its not even worth it. What are/were the reliability issues with Krash RTPs? Have they been addressed? How does everyone feel about the mechanical reliability of Krash RTPs in the past and now?

 

[Wax50]

I am coming in late in the game with Krash RTP so I can’t speak on the early models etc.

However my 2019 Reaper has not given me one issue. I have only owned it for two months but I am on a lake and it’s ridden constantly. As of right now I would buy another product without a doubt and hope my opinion continues with their product.

 

[Sanoman]

Just like any other manufacturer that is starting out,there is gonna be problems.You aren’t old enough to remember that when Honda,Nissan (Datsun at the time),Toyota and Subaru were pretty much junk.Rusting and mechanical problems all of them had.But look at them today.
Krash has got the right idea.Charge a decent price for a full ready freestyle/freeride that you can go out and buy.If you have never built a ski from the ground up,then you would know ya can’t build one that cheap.They are doing better.
And of course with un-social media always present,the bad comments and bashing goes viral in a short time.Krash has been very responsive in helping owners get the skis back on line when they do have issues.

 

[chixwithtrix]

Having been an early Krash owner before the RTP - build quality was just not there. Neat looking skis, ride amazing, very heavy not for flatwater though. Surf was awesome! But what could you ask for for the price ya know? They are a new company building budget skis with cheaper materials. Gotta start somewhere and starting a business is HARD.

The impeller was off center in the pump, none of the engine mount points lined up, my hood had a gap worse than a porn stars...
Anyway.

They were responsive to some issues, but I ultimately gave up on them after what seemed like endless problems. Lesson learned - save and buy OEM. I have always said I hope they learn and evolve. They have the right idea, execution is lacking.

 

[Quinc]

Greatest thing to happen to jetskis and freeride since the SJ came out in 1989 and people will find a reason to hate it.

 

[mthomps]

Technk

Having been an early Krash owner before the RTP - build quality was just not there. Neat looking skis, ride amazing, very heavy not for flatwater though. Surf was awesome! But what could you ask for for the price ya know? They are a new company building budget skis with cheaper materials. Gotta start somewhere and starting a business is HARD.

The impeller was off center in the pump, none of the engine mount points lined up, my hood had a gap worse than a porn stars...
Anyway.

They were responsive to some issues, but I ultimately gave up on them after what seemed like endless problems. Lesson learned - save and buy OEM. I have always said I hope they learn and evolve. They have the right idea, execution is lacking.

Technically they are oem, just a new one.

Hopefully they keep learning from their mistakes and get a tight template for manufacturing. That said I wish they would have been better for you at making right what they sold you

 

[Quinc]

It is also a performance machine that takes a little more TLC compared to something mass produced. And being an unstable 2stroke machine you are going to have uneducated/lazy people ingesting water and messing up the oil mixtures then blaming krash because "it just broke".

 

[Sanoman]

Having been an early Krash owner before the RTP - build quality was just not there. Neat looking skis, ride amazing, very heavy not for flatwater though. Surf was awesome! But what could you ask for for the price ya know? They are a new company building budget skis with cheaper materials. Gotta start somewhere and starting a business is HARD.

The impeller was off center in the pump, none of the engine mount points lined up, my hood had a gap worse than a porn stars...
Anyway.

They were responsive to some issues, but I ultimately gave up on them after what seemed like endless problems. Lesson learned - save and buy OEM. I have always said I hope they learn and evolve. They have the right idea, execution is lacking.

Some of the things you mentioned just comes with owning an a/m hull.Build a superfreak from scratch,then you will have something to bitch about.Some of the other a/m hulls that have been built are just plain crap.l thought my Predator went together well.
But l do have to agree with you that some of the parts and components that Krash uses need some help,but they are getting better.One of the reasons why l chose to use my own parts.

 

[chixwithtrix]

Technk
Technically they are oem, just a new one.

They weren't complete when I bought my hull so I meant Yamaha by OEM. You'll be able to get parts for the engine in 20 years. The Krash? Who knows.

Some of the things you mentioned just comes with owning an a/m hull.

Not really, price is the big point I was emphasizing. Aftermarket hulls don't have to be difficult, you pay for how much bull you want to deal with.
We've built two ProForce carbon/kevlar AM skis and had no issues. The Krash kit was...I believe $8500 back then? The ProForce hull was like $12-$14k.

The Krash is cheap in price, and that dollar savings has to come from somewhere. Spend ProForce money, you better be darn tootin there aren't any of those issues.

Like I said though, for the money Krash has SUPER fun hulls!

 

[Haritza]

[QUOTE = "Quinc, post: 2056513, miembro: 14886"] También es una máquina de rendimiento que requiere un poco más de TLC en comparación con algo producido en masa. Y al ser una máquina inestable de 2 tiempos, las personas sin educación / perezosas que ingieren agua y desordenan las mezclas de aceite y luego culpan a Krash porque "simplemente se rompió". [/ CITA]
Sí estas en el surf en unos cascos que no sellan bien y se te funden los fusibles, lo más normal es que se te inunde el Jet y si no tienes suerte igual hasta lo pierdes .no puedo hablar sobre el comportamiento de algunos clientes, pero krash tampoco lo hizo bien

 

[Quinc]

[QUOTE = "Quinc, post: 2056513, miembro: 14886"] También es una máquina de rendimiento que requiere un poco más de TLC en comparación con algo producido en masa. Y al ser una máquina inestable de 2 tiempos, las personas sin educación / perezosas que ingieren agua y desordenan las mezclas de aceite y luego culpan a Krash porque "simplemente se rompió". [/ CITA]
Sí estas en el surf en unos cascos que no sellan bien y se te funden los fusibles, lo más normal es que se te inunde el Jet y si no tienes suerte igual hasta lo pierdes .no puedo hablar sobre el comportamiento de algunos clientes, pero krash tampoco lo hizo bien

¡Convenido! Y Krash tuvo muchos problemas con el sellado de las campanas y los imbéciles al principio, pero creo que eso se ha solucionado ahora.

 

[CHRISRACERX]

You can have a lot of issues with the kawis and Superjet too. After so many hands get in there to tinker this sometimes get messy. I’m sure some of there new of the shelf running skis will have some bugs but they seem to be a good company to try to resolve issues

 

[Sanoman]

You can have a lot of issues with the kawis and Superjet too. After so many hands get in there to tinker this sometimes get messy. I’m sure some of there new of the shelf running skis will have some bugs but they seem to be a good company to try to resolve issues

Krash is responding well to problems from what l have seen so far.My build went well and l really didn’t have much to fix or change.ScottS on here told me to reinforce the tray area around all the footholds.He found his ski leaking there and over the top of his midshaft (front foothold) in the engine bay.It was an easy fix.