why 1-3 turf weldwood coats?

[Ericfox]

I turfed the nose of my ski - mainly to cover fiberglass repair work i had to do from smashing into the bottom too many times.

no padding on the rails...

when i turf the tray area sides i cut my turf using a template, then leave the area where the footholds are extra long then use a heat gun to heat up the turf and basically "push" it in to allow the turf to mold to the inside of the foothold. No cuts. Start by the bulkead and work the turf back until you reach the foothold area, then use the heat gun to heat up the turf. It takes some practice though... the turf will split if you try to stretch it too much.

However, this last time i turfed i extended my holds out to add more "overhang" for my foot... so i had to cut my turf a little and scab in a piece.

I used 25mm under pad on my tray, including into the footholds however, before i glued the padding in i sanded the foothold area of the pad so that it tappered down from 25mm to about 12mm. I made it to fit fairly snug.

You can also pad the top side of the foothold to make an even tighter fit. it all comes down to preference and comfort.

Ok. I will cut up some pieces of padding and turf and kinda get up on my ski and try to mock it up to see how my foot will fit in with the thickness of the pad/turf....

I really hope this comes out good... if it doesnt then at least it will function good and look OK... I will be taking my time!!!!!

 

[Frosty]

Ok. I will cut up some pieces of padding and turf and kinda get up on my ski and try to mock it up to see how my foot will fit in with the thickness of the pad/turf....

I really hope this comes out good... if it doesnt then at least it will function good and look OK... I will be taking my time!!!!!

what i did what use the Jet Pilot boots i wear as a guide to see how the fit would be. this way your padding/turf is built to your foot.

and definitely take your time.

 

[Mike W]

Thanks guys...

Who says turfing all the way around the nose is the way to go? who says putting the stock nose bumper back on is the best option?

Do you push the turf into the foothold and make a triangle shaped cut and then fill it in with a little piece? I am going to try and turf with one single piece on both sides like the thread "turfing with no seems" from the FAQ. He didnt describe that part very well, unless I missed it....

Last question... do you guys put padding on the who bottom of the tray including inside the footholds? I saw one or two pics while searching around that showed that they cut the pad away from where their feet would be in the footholds. You do put padding on top of the rails and in around the top inside of the foothold right?

I should be good to go after I get these answered....
tomorrow is the day! Can't wait to get my ski looking more like a ski again!!!!

My last turf job I did I turfed the rails and put the nose and rear bumpers back on. Its personal preferance.
I also put padding across the whole tray. However I did cut "footprints" out of the padding where my feet went. That was just to make sure I had plenty of room for my feet inside the footholds. Again, personal preferance.
Also, pad the top of the rails. Your elbows will thank you.
For my footholds I had to piece a couple pices together. If you use a manilla folder to make a template for the small pieces it makes it alot easier.

 

[Big Kahuna]

on your footholds, start from the top down, use a heat gun to heat turf up, then start to contour the turf inside the footholds, you may hit some parts where the turf does not want to lay down, you may need to make a relief cut there to get it to lay down, then just cut some small plugs to patch those areas.........

 

[tom21]

I think it has a big effect on what and how you do it by the type of foothold. I have found out the hard way on my ski that 24-7 millenium type footholds or xft or enclosed are not gonna allow you to do one sheet and get it all. I really tried on mine, still had to add a sliver.

this time around I had the 25 mil pad down and made the foothld piece first. then turfed tray and cut the thickness off the foothold piece, installed them and then did the front and sides were last.

I also tried to make no seems on my ski on the gunwhales at the back, pulled it off but won't do it again and its not staying on the one side. even with superglue.

I hate the factory cut so I did just one relief, sucks to look at it but its the cleanest way I could figure.

oh and use thin pad to fix the drop down on the gunwhale and the front ebox bolts. this one will have a toehold installed so it was not necessary.

 

[Frosty]

That looks really clean Tom... even having cuts, super clean.

 

[tom21]

thanks- like everyone has said, I was extremely patient and took my time. spread it out over 3 nights, two coats each side.

the hardest part for me is waiting for the glue to dry and actually getting the piece in where it needs to be before it hits anywhere and gets stuck. I try to pre cut one side and then finish cut the other side after it is glued.

also sometimes it helps if you are not sure how or if you are able to get all of it done- like the side I glued in 4 stages. got the front from top to bottom but only 4 inches back and stuck it in so I could cram it in the corner and bottom with out worry about it sticking and getting fubared elsewhere. then did the rest of the side but not the end. did the end with the relief, then the top and last the outside lip. so five stages. whoops. for complex stuff or where you are scared just glue a small easy part and work out.

individual results may vary.:trink26:

 

[stanton]

I just did 1 coat on each surface and havent had the slightest bit of peeling.
used almost a full can of glue (red weldwood)

 

[hangtime]

Sucks you cut it short though .Chances are the piece on the back that is only half way down will peel unless you seal the edge with super glue .I use the black rubber based stuff they sell at hobby stores ,they use it to glue the tires on RC cars


the coats on the porous surfaces will dry more quickly than the non porous .Glue the non porous surface first .
if the glue would stick to the ski that didnt have glue on it why would you glue both sides in the first place .

I don't see the point of using pad if your going to cut out where your feet go unless you have no choice but I love the pad under my feet it really helps cushion big landings .At least use the 6 mil pad where your feet are .

I just did 1 coat on each surface and havent had the slightest bit of peeling.
used almost a full can of glue (red weldwood)

 

[Ericfox]

Do you sand the glass you used on the footholds/tray-area before applying turf to it? Thanks for the help.

 

[ksarge91]

Don't turf under the bumpers. Only turf the tops and then the side and then cut bottom of the sides at a slight angle so they are flush. Otherwise the constant water going up under the bumper will eventually just tear all the turf off.

 

[Mike W]

Do you sand the glass you used on the footholds/tray-area before applying turf to it? Thanks for the help.

Yes. Rough it up so the turf will stick.

 

[yamaslut]

Do you sand the glass you used on the footholds/tray-area before applying turf to it? Thanks for the help.

sand everything w/ 40 grit... sounds overkill, but the glue will bite into that like mad...

no less than 2-3 coats (depending on thickness) on the turf... it really sucks up alot of the glue...