What to do with my tray? first post

xcnick

xcnick

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I have been away for a while and of the many new things I am most intrigue by are the various tray modifications to wedge against. How do I custom my 91 Superjet tray?

I would love links to products, but this is my first post and don't want to upset anyone.

The tray always feels too narrow, but I figured it was because I suck. I doubt I want to focus on either freestyle or carving, think beginner.

The other thing that impressed me from good ol' youtube is people are ridding switch and only doing backsides. Not cool, riding anything switch is an enigma wrapped in a mystery for one's entire life. However if I am going to learn all over again I would like to get the tray right first.

My tricks are lame attempts to submarine and I can do the twirly thing on the tail by accident, not on purpose. Will a kicker on the tail help? I can run wide open, but I have to lean back so hard it is not fun for more than a couple of seconds... maybe three or four. :)

Making turns should be the main focus, but not at the exclusion of all else.
 
fastgtfairlane

fastgtfairlane

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Charlotte, NC
If you want to do a wide tray, I'd consider doing the rrp ninja adjustable holds or the adjustable setup from tigercraft. My superjet had some blowsion holds and wide tray when I bought it and immediately hated the blowsion holds. I decided to go with the adjustable kit from tigercraft. I havent quite finished the ski yet but this will be a game changer.
 

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xcnick

xcnick

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Was the Blowsion “kickers” footwell the one you didn't like? Thanks for sharing because this appeared as the most obvious option for me. At Tigercraft I found this link, but no picture or anything. http://ridetigercraft.com/rrp-adjustable-binding-system-ab-foot-plate/

Are the footstraps like from a windsurfer of any help? https://www.blowsion.com/products/hull-components/foot-straps/dakine-supremo-footstrap I am thinking this could be done now and cut the tray wider as a winter project.

Do the guys who race use straps or just the freestyle guys?
 
E350

E350

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Sacramento Delta
Our turf is in great shape and I don't use footholds so I have no interest in opening up our trays.

But it is likely that the foam in our trays has at least some water in it.

If you are going to widen your tray, you may also want to open your tray to see if the foam is soaked with water. Others who have done this will likely provide you the links to their build threads.
 
xcnick

xcnick

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89451
Yup, I have a bad feeling that will go away when it gets opened up. However of all the mods a google search came up with, I feel customizing the tray may help the most. And getting off the computer and down to the water. See ya all tonight.
 
fastgtfairlane

fastgtfairlane

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Charlotte, NC
xcnick said:
Was the Blowsion “kickers” footwell the one you didn't like? Thanks for sharing because this appeared as the most obvious option for me. At Tigercraft I found this link, but no picture or anything. http://ridetigercraft.com/rrp-adjustable-binding-system-ab-foot-plate/

Are the footstraps like from a windsurfer of any help? https://www.blowsion.com/products/hull-components/foot-straps/dakine-supremo-footstrap I am thinking this could be done now and cut the tray wider as a winter project.

Do the guys who race use straps or just the freestyle guys?
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yes it was the blowsion kickers i believe. the problem if you have more than a 10 size shoe, you cant get enough padding in the hold to be comfortable at least for me. i wear wrestling shoes size 11. guy i bought the ski from was using regular high top shoes with much thicker soles. i contacted tigercraft directly on instagram and ordered them through the messenger. came with the buckets, hardware, holds with no turf and anodized aluminum brackets. it was under 400 shipped
 
brapperdoodle

brapperdoodle

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Asheville, NC
xcnick said:
I have been away for a while and of the many new things I am most intrigue by are the various tray modifications to wedge against. How do I custom my 91 Superjet tray?

I would love links to products, but this is my first post and don't want to upset anyone.

The tray always feels too narrow, but I figured it was because I suck. I doubt I want to focus on either freestyle or carving, think beginner.

The other thing that impressed me from good ol' youtube is people are ridding switch and only doing backsides. Not cool, riding anything switch is an enigma wrapped in a mystery for one's entire life. However if I am going to learn all over again I would like to get the tray right first.

My tricks are lame attempts to submarine and I can do the twirly thing on the tail by accident, not on purpose. Will a kicker on the tail help? I can run wide open, but I have to lean back so hard it is not fun for more than a couple of seconds... maybe three or four. :)

Making turns should be the main focus, but not at the exclusion of all else.
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Sounds like me when I started riding, I used to lean way far back to go fast and then I realized you need to do the opposite. Getting your weight forward before you accelerate helps to keep the ski from proposing and lets it hook up and plane out.

I also made a completely custom tray for my 95' Superjet and there are a few things I would have done differently. You can check it out here and get some ideas
http://x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/1995-yamaha-superjet-resto-mod.197342/

But what I can say is that if you are truly a beginner you don't need to worry about footholds or widening your stance. Different types of riding require different foot placement but the stock tray is plenty of space to properly recreationally ride the ski. I see some people who ride feet side by side and that seems incorrect unless you're doing insane freestyle moves. Ideally I think you should have one foot in the very front of the tray to the right or left and the other foot on the opposite side in the back slightly hanging the rear, this makes it more like a surfing stance and allows you to quickly throw your weight any direction and I think really promotes a more proper riding style for what a stock Superjet was intended to be ridden like. No need to switch stance for cornering, just like surfing... Just body manipulation and balance. Thats just an opinion though ;)
 
mthomps

mthomps

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Cleveland
Body positioning on the superjet is a big component in mastering the control of them. I advise putting the saws away for a season or 2 and really dig in to learning the basics of how to handle it before widening the tray or even installing foothold.

That way you will have a much better idea of what YOU want and not just all of our opinions on what we think you want.
 
kevbo

kevbo

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dfw
Footholds are for freestyle. I cut some full length slots in my SJ lake cruiser. They made it much more comfortable and I can still hook my feet in for wake jumping.
 
xcnick

xcnick

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89451
braaperdoodle's build thread is very complete and makes me think I would rather write a check than get all itchy. Anybody near Reno who can do this for me? I like the idea of full length slots because I feel the front foot could use some help, but you are all right, just ride some more. I rode switch today and nailed some backside turns. They felt so good I feel good about putting time into learning this. Got a damn cramp in my calf and had to quit.

Let's see if I can post a video.
 
xcnick

xcnick

Location
89451
I will take that seriously. I have had the superjet for almost thirty years and it is the only ski I have ever ridden. But as you see from the video, my only friends are on the internet.
 
shockwave538

shockwave538

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Lake Anna, VA
The tray extension can definitely help with getting better control in the corners. Might impede freestyle some though, maybe someone else can weigh in on that. For something else similar but less “aggressive” you can try these: https://jettrim.com/shop/watercraft/stand-up-jet-skis/yamaha-superjet/jettrim-ergo-kickers/. BTW if you do anything with your tray, I recommended looking into JetTrim mats. I know they can do custom for wide trays, but don’t know about footholds.

I wouldn’t mess with cutting your tray at this point. The only exception is to maybe reform and seal it if you think it’s waterlogged. But that’s also when you’d want to do any other tray work, so maybe it’s best to just wait through this year regardless. Putting drain plugs in for now is also an option.

Sounds like you’re getting the right idea with your “backside” turns. When you get a better feel for it, you’ll want to be right food forward on right turns and vice versa. Firm foot pressure on the rear corner helps a lot. One side will feel notably harder to master, just keep practicing and trying different combos of throttle, foot placement, and leaning. It’s a beautiful thing once you nail it, and you’ll learn to love those sore legs after.
 
fastgtfairlane

fastgtfairlane

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Charlotte, NC
I finished turfing my tray last night. I used 2 layers of 9mm underpaid for the first 12 inches. Then one layer of 26mm underpadding. Added a 2nd layer of 26mm for the last 8 inches then ground down all the access and tapered off on the corners so the turf would lay down nicely.
 

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