Wet Wolf pump and stock boat?

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Super Dee

Location
Mount Albert, Ontario
Hey guys, just wondering your opinion on having a Wet Wolf pump cone in a basically stock '95 SJ. I just picked up this superjet at the end of September and will be installing some footholds, an impeller, UMI 4* bars and a bilge pump over the winter. I picked up a used Solas I series impeller for a good price because I figured it would be better than the cavitating aluminum stock impeller. I don't have a lot of cash to put into the SJ right now so a swirl or concord impeller is out of the question.

Since the Pump cone is a relatively cheap upgrade, I'm wondering if you guys think it's beneficial for a stock setup. THe only other mods I have are a Worx intake grate and rideplate. I just don't want to waste my time and money on minimal results.

The engine setup is completely stock as well.

Thanks guys!
 
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Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
about the same thing from boring your nozzle out some.

use a sanding drum on a drill for cheap, the cone is $50, and debateble whether its better than a bored nozzle or not.

Ive got one, and a bored nozzle, its best to play mix n match and just see what works the best for your particular needs and boat.
 
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hangtime

hangtime

Speak up ,don't kiss azz
Location
WORCESTER,MASS- HAMPTON N.H.
It's a very minimal improvement at best and your better off saving your money and going to a TBM cone and Skat Swirl .

the bored nozzle and cone and cut back swirl all add up together but just the cone by itself I wouldn't bother .
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
hard to say, I did so much changing of impellers, engines, cones, and nozzles last year..

I wouldnt spend $50 on one I dont think, but find one used, and chaply bore your nozzle, and you will likely feel a difference.



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Hey mouthful, was it a noticeable improvement? How did it affect your mid range/topend?
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noah45

noah45

SlipNut
Location
Midwest
If you have access to a lathe, turn both parts... JBWeld inside of OEM cone, then turn it to match WW. Mine worked great... cost $5, time 1 hr.
 
Speedfreak

Speedfreak

Location
So. IL
Save your cash and just have your nozzle bored. I installed a wetwolf cone and had my nozzle bored at the same time. I didn't ride for 3 weeks while I was doing this but when I got back on the ski I didn't notice anything. It was a major disappointment for the money.

I since found out that any machine shop that builds motors or basically anything can bore your nozzle for cheap. I had one bored for a mcdonalds lunch and $10. So that is cheap enough.
 
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Super Dee

Location
Mount Albert, Ontario
I do have access to a mill and lathe. One of my buddies works in a shop with all the equipment and we can go there whenever we want to do machine work. He milled out the nozzle on my 550 before.

I just don't want to do anything too radical that will only suit a stock setup. I don't want to regret it later on when I start with the engine mods.
 
BruceSki

BruceSki

Formerly Motoman25
Location
Long Island
hangtime said:
That's beacuse you have never tried a TBM cone and Skat mag impeller combo .The closest thing to a Mag pump you can get .:biggthumpup:
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got my tbm setup sitting here and im awaiting ups for my skat mag prop from legdrag...

then i can slap the pump back together and flip my ski back over....

ill report back on how that setup hooks once the spring rolls around...

but ill be comparing from stock boat with r&d intake grate only to a boat with the tbm, skat 12/17 mag, d cut stock plate, b pipe, ada head, msd enhancer, cut pole, footholds, and umi bars so it might feel a bit different anyway lol...

but im sure anything is better than stock...my stock aluminum prop would cavitate worse than anything...sounded like a blender with rocks in it at full speed from all the air going through it.
 
Speedfreak

Speedfreak

Location
So. IL
Super Dee said:
I just don't want to do anything too radical that will only suit a stock setup. I don't want to regret it later on when I start with the engine mods.
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If you run a wetwolf cone and a stock nozzle you might have problems with cavatation after you go with a +5mm stroker or bigger but a bored stock nozzle and stock cone are fine. I would just turn it on a lathe and be done with it. You can turn a stock nozzle out to 86.5mm with no problems... I know my calculations were off in my head and I took too much out of mine... LOL but even with that size nozzle, a wetwolf cone, pipe, head with 200 PSI, timing advance, I still didn't have any cavatation problems
 
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ags0702

Location
Greenville, NC
Mouthfulloflake said:
the search function of this site works VERY well, try terms like " nozzle AND bore"
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Agreed...btw mouthfull 4,000 posts!

But anyways, the slightest change in riding condition can alter how you think your ski is performing. Such as the placebo effect, as in you modified your boat so you "think" you should feel an improvement.

I put a Wet Wolf cone on my superjet mainly because I want to get everything out of this 683 motor that I can right now without upgrading to a 701. I also just bored a nozzle and got a lightened flywheel and an msd enhancer, so I'm running out of options to boost my power.
 
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