Wakeboard double up backflip tips???????

[Exile]

Howzit! Me and a mate of mine are doing a flatwater freestyle promotion/demonstration this weekend at a waterfestival and boat show. Yamaha sponsored us 2 wakeboardboats to use for xtra appeal....:cool2:

My question,what are the keys to performing a boatwke backflip(or should I say our upcoming suicide backflips to please the crowd)...... :cheer:

Any input would gr8ly be appreciated be4 we get concussed....I will report back with clips and pics afterwards.......:biggrin:

Thank You in advance!:biggthumpup:
Exile.

 

[norcal ex]

you want to know how to do it on a jet ski right? just get the wakes good by having the boats go the perfect speed and distance from eachother (look at the WF pro videos) and hit it and lean backkkkkkkk

 

[Exile]

Thanx, Im not worried about the rotation,but more the speed to hit and anticipate the wave correctly......timing wise(coz its completely diff than surf).

Also how far must the boats be apart more or less and speed to make ONE MASSIVE wake....

In the Moscow demo there are a few riders doin it,just wanderin whether they are also lamey stroker club members???? or what were they running?

Thanx.

 

[norcal ex]

go out the day before and mess with the speeds and distances, try to get it to be the best for what you want. every boat is different so you just need to feel for it.

 

[Idok]

try and get a day to practice...those wakes are WAYYYY different than waves...

we tried it for the first time last weekend

 

[WaveDemon]

they grabbed 2 random boats there were cruising buy at the lanier. they just told them to make a wake. After a couple of attempts they were filpping off of them.

 

[kx454]

when i do it we usually have to boats 20-25 feet apart or so, and have on of the boats go ahead of the other. usually the front of the one boat is perpindicular to the center of the other boat. the distance also depends on the boats. just practice alittle bit and you can see when the wave forms perfectly. and the boats should not be plowing through the water, but they should be just about on plane. if you have the oppurtunity take the boats out and try it before the comp so you can get them set up properly

 

[Exile]

Thanx,I also heard tht the biggest wake is just after plaining speed on the boats,weve got 1day pre practise.......so we hope to make the most of it!
Should the wake be more foam or more water if you know what I mean(T like shape where the top is more white waterish?)

Im concerned with what and where il get enough thrust from or to compensate with speed and keep the weight all the way down and back in the tray.....

 

[SXR-FOREVER]

The boats have to be close enough that the FIRST wave off the back of them is the waves that create the double up. Atleast thats how it seemed a hell of alot easier for me. Check out "rampt" too they have some great footage of double ups!

 

[Exile]

Oh ja Rampt,I completely 4got!!

 

[NathanMoore]

We did them at the theme park i worked at (Marine World) every single day this summer. We had tons of practice getting the biggest wake and what we found was it depends on if your doing a barrel roll or a backflip, for backflips we wanted the steepest wake we could make, so we had the boats about 5-8 feet apart (estimate) and went 8.5 mph on the perfect pass, for a barrel roll we had the boats a little wider to allow for more of an S-turn and a wider wake surface.

We used Malibu X-Ride series wakeboard boats, so its a little different then the yamaha wakeboard series jetboats you will be using. So just go before hand and make a bunch of practice runs.

It takes a lot of concentration to keep the wake formed perfectly, so be careful and watch for the other boat, and jet skiier.

As for hitting the wake, we would come in pretty slow, and sort of hop the ski into the dip that forms before the wake and then pin it and look back all the way up the wake...Just keep it smooth, especially on lower powered skis. We were using Sj's with only a b-pipe and head.

 

[Exile]

Thanx Nathan for the info! Helps alot... the 2 skis were using are mine(760cc with everything xcept lamey,hull,ignition) and shawn`s(760cc limited raceboat without a trim???).

Yes,the yamaha boats are diff, Its all we have so wel make it work.......did it help to run 1 boat 1/2 fither than the other to get a bigger wake as earlier mentioned or is that only coz it was 2 diff boats?.....were getting 2 same I think.

 

[NathanMoore]

We would have both boats EXACTLY together...or as close as our drivers could keep. If one boat started moving ahead of another it wasnt nearly as big, and not nearly as steep And the wake would be "crooked" and throw you sideways. You pretty much want to go as slow as possible without the wake crumbling, and dig the back of the boat as deep into the water as possible...If you can weight them that will help too.

You guys should have no problems with your wayyy more powerful skis with trim or not... We used stock pro-tec trim...which i didnt even feel much of a difference with or without. Barely any throw in our set up.

 

[Exile]

Trim is just a state of mind xtra till you go for fwbflips with the serious $$$$.
It was cheapish so I did the trim,not a huge! gain at all...but in the end all ads up.

 

[Jawbreaker]

I was in the boat with Malone while we practiced setting up the wake for him at Nationals. He wanted the water to be spitting up where the crests of the two wakes met. We found it easier to keep one boat at one speed on the perfect pass and used the other boat to adjust the wake, rather than two boats fighting each other adjusting speed the whole time.

(A big thanks to TNT Watersports for the use of the Malibu wakeboard boats!)

 

[yamaslut]

I agree w/ everything Nathan said...