Two batteries at once?

McDog

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Thinking about running two etx9 batteries at once. One in rear of ski and one on a power factor tank built to hold one. How do I run the cables for best performance? I get lost in parallel and series and all that and want to make sure I do it right. It will be the same as one big battery right? I have the batteries already and my new motor will be so unreal in my carbon hull that I think weight is not an issue.
 

Kohldanielzimmer

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I believe you will have to connect them in parallel (positive to positive negative to negative). This will increase the amperage hours capacity. If your were to hook two 12 volts in a series it would create a 24 volt battery which I don't think would play nice with electronics.

Is this a total loss setup?
 

McDog

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Yes. Total loss.

So does it matter where I connect the electonics? Just pick a battery or in between somewhere?
 

McDog

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So I could run regular hookup to one battery, then add a battery by connecting it to original with two cables? One from positive to positive and another from negative to negative? I want to be as clear as possible with expensive electronics.
 
Parallel connection of the two 12V batteries is 100% correct as all have stated. Positive to positive. Negative to negative. This allows any energy requiring device to draw from one battery or the other or both and thus each of them drain at the same time. Since the electrons only get energized by the battery they come from, there is NO doubling in voltage and no chance of damaging any 12V device. This is exactly what we do when we boost a car.

Another option is to simply have the spare battery on board (but you will have to re-charge it once in a while) and use it only in an emergency or swap the batteries frequently. This second option never lets you down (again if the spare battery is fully charged of course.) The only trouble with a parallel connection is (even though you have twice the energy storage) an unusual drain would run both batteries down at the same time and you might not know about it until you end up with two dead batteries.

Under normal use with a fully functional charging system and no unusual drain, you really only use the battery to start the machine and once the ski is started the battery does not drain any more ( in fact it recharges) so a second battery should not be needed. Having the spare battery for the rare situation where the charging system is not working properly is a nice failsafe. Esp. if it happens on surf trips. But if you are close to the launch or with a friend with a tow line, why add unnecessary weight?
 
Nice write up, but he is running total loss, so no charging system. Pretty sure that's why he wants two...
I apologise for wasting your time. I did not read or realise he was running "total loss"....

I guess I got confused with this part...

"I don't plan to use it all the time btw. Just set it up that way for surf trips."

If I were running "total loss" and doing a surf trip I still might prefer to know my status by running one battery then switching when needed....

Thanks!
 

McDog

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No worries. Good info. I would have to come up with a switch to do the extra battery your way. The hood can't come off in the surf.
 
yeah I missed the total loss part ... which
No worries. Good info. I would have to come up with a switch to do the extra battery your way. The hood can't come off in the surf.
TO be sure...a switch. Yeah I completely missed the "total loss" part in the mid discussion and am sorry about that. Thanks guys for being patient with that mistake.

Once again the parallel connection is great but I prefer a fully changed back up that lets me know when I am halfway down instead of finding out when both parallel-joined batteries are dead. A voltmeter would help of course but sometimes we forget to look and ....
 
Handle pole mounted switch and a relay system would be a pretty cool idea. When the TL eats a battery, you can switch to the backup as easy as turning a bilge on...


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Not to get off subject, but are you running MSD TL in a sealed box or what's the short version of helping shield components from saltwater ? Good prior success ? I would love to run TL in saltwater often with my 900R.
 
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