Sliding track system vs gunwale plate-does anyone have access to a cnc machine/laser cutting?

Roseand

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I am for sure doing adjustable footholds, and most likely going with the stryker footholds. I've been eyeing up using a bracket on the outside of the gunwales that allows over 6 inches of front to back adjustment, but now I'm starting to think about a track system as well(Less load on the gunwales too). How exactly does a track system like Krash, etc. work? How does it stay tight? What do you guys prefer?
And also, in terms of if I decide to go the bracket on the sides of the hull, is there someone here that I could send a solidworks model to with all dimensions, etc, and you could laser/cnc cut them for me? Yes, I'll definitely pay for materials & we'd workout a price.. Thanks aheada time!
 
Roseand

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Stryker setup, with tracks in the middle of the tray-
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I'd probably cut out the middle part and make tracks on the side instead so I can lower my tray.But this idea is pretty unique.
 
Roseand

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Nothing really, they work fine for what I'm doing now.
I'm shortening my hull and widening my tray to the point that normal holds won't work, so I might as well go adjustable(especially useful since I'm shortening the hull, so I can find a sweet spot). After riding surf(freshwater due to insane winds, waist heigh, super short periods) it got kinda annoying having to kick in right when I saw the wave I wanted. That's why I'm very interested in slightly snug holds that you can lightly kick right into and stay locked in with lots of movement without your feet coming loose.
 
superjet104

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I can cut you some plates on a cnc plasma table. I was interested in making an adjustable setup too but never got around to it. I'll probably cut a set for myself too;p

How do you seal the holes cut where the thru-bolts go on the gunwales?


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Roseand

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700Pirate said:
Nice project. You planning on flipping or rolling it?
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Absolutely. Already almost pulled off a roll the other day when I over rotated an inverted stab.. Haven't even practiced rolls yet but will very shortly. Flips, yeah, with either a vwake or Lake Michigan surf.
 
Roseand

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-4,and also will have tom21 sponsons
@superjet104
The holes will be completely through composite/metal Material. The brackets themselves will be held on with a bolt in each corner, then comes the reinforced gunwale with triax/biax with no mat, and then a composite backing plate (not sure on thickness yet) that will be epoxied to the gunwales, and then a couple pieces of biax with no mat will go over it. It'll be very rigid. With the slotted bracket installed, you simply drill out the slots... And if you're worried about the exposed fiberglass, you could lightly coat it with resin to seal the bare glass. But ideally, everything should be one tight laminate.
Make sense? Composite backer board makes lining up the slots easier(since you can do it while the bracket is installed), and it will bond very well to the laminate as well.
 
Dalton

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You can use tracks like the Stryker holds with square head bolts in the tracks which you then use a nut to secure the footholds to the track. Recess the track into the gunwales/tray. I don't have the link to the tracks I was going to use on hand anymore but something suitable should be easy to find via google.

Anchoring your holds to the tray and the gunwales will let you get away with much thinner gunwales than if anchoring the holds solely on the sides. Less weight.
 
superjet104

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Gotcha, that makes sense now. I'm going to cut a set of side plates and foot pods for my ski once the weather gets colder.


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tightithrash

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If I may.

This entire project is a waste of time. I don't mean that it's not a good idea! I mean that it is not worth the time nor the effort.

Your cutting your hull -4. Great! Your feet will still need to be at the back of the ski. Your ski is still very long in the front and to get that big nose 'up', you need to be at the rear. That's it cut and dry.

People get adjustables, set them, and then never move them. You find the sweet spot then, there is no point of moving them.

I see you are tired of having to kick your feet into foot holds before each wave. That is because you are not in your actual riding position. I did the same thing when I had foot holds.

The foot hold your speaking about, "slightly snug holds that you can lightly kick right into and stay locked in with lots of movement without your feet coming loose", those my friend.... Those are foot straps.


Still want adjustables? Great! Cut out 4" tall squares from the back of the tray to the front and pad the entire thing. Now you can move your feet around and figure out where you want to be.

Find the sweet spot? ( it's in the very back) great! Now glue a 2 " pad that is shaped like the letter U so you can step into that position and your foot can not slide out the back.

Now you widened your tray and made adjustable foot holds at the same time and didn't waste a winter trying to whip up something and getting way over your head to then..... Setting your adjustables in 1 spot.... The back.

Again I like your idea and enthusiasm but..... Yea.
 
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tightithrash said:
If I may.

This entire project is a waste of time. I don't mean that it's not a good idea! I mean that it is not worth the time nor the effort.

Your cutting your hull -4. Great! Your feet will still need to be at the back of the ski. Your ski is still very long in the front and to get that big nose 'up', you need to be at the rear. That's it cut and dry.

People get adjustables, set them, and then never move them. You find the sweet spot then, there is no point of moving them.

I see you are tired of having to kick your feet into foot holds before each wave. That is because you are not in your actual riding position. I did the same thing when I had foot holds.

The foot hold your speaking about, "slightly snug holds that you can lightly kick right into and stay locked in with lots of movement without your feet coming loose", those my friend.... Those are foot straps.


Still want adjustables? Great! Cut out 4" tall squares from the back of the tray to the front and pad the entire thing. Now you can move your feet around and figure out where you want to be.

Find the sweet spot? ( it's in the very back) great! Now glue a 2 " pad that is shaped like the letter U so you can step into that position and your foot can not slide out the back.

Now you widened your tray and made adjustable foot holds at the same time and didn't waste a winter trying to whip up something and getting way over your head to then..... Setting your adjustables in 1 spot.... The back.

Again I like your idea and enthusiasm but..... Yea.
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Absolutely awesome advice, and I appreciate the time you took to write that up.. I guess you've helped me think about some other things!
I still love normal footholds for flatwater/boat wakes, but I noticed that they kinda suck for surf since you're always moving around in different directions and slashing, etc.
But since im widening my tray so much and I still ride straight flatwater, I like the idea of footholds, and a bracket system is pretty straight forward and seems like the easiest way to go about it, so the adjustability is just a bonus. Plus they're remove able and you can mod a different style of hold if you want. My tray is gonna be super wide, so I'm thinking a front foothold, and then straps in the way rear as well, since they'll be a Lotta room.
IMO it's not that much of a waste of time since I'm gonna have a long long winter with time to work on this.
Sound a little better?
 
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