Shred Master vs. other rideplates

noah45

SlipNut
Location
Midwest
Are these 'V' rideplates/intakes setups as good as what they say?

-"up on plane in less than 2' "
-"eliminates porpoising"

If they do what they claim to, why I haven't heard anyone promoting them?
 

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WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
Supposedly on a 650sx they make a huge difference in handling,the sx handles like crap so it would have to be an improvement.:brap:
 

Foximus

CFL Cheapass.
Location
Oviedo, Fl
I have one on my 550 and think its mostly junk (for the price) For carving I was far far happier with a toploader and any finned rideplate (ocean pro or rend)
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
the best plate for a 650sx is the jetdynamics
with out a doubt
its the complete oppisite of a shred master
it has the concave where the shred master has the v

of course this is only my op but i had one on my old 650sx and it was the best out there
 

dbrutherford

Parts Whore
Location
Fairmont, WV
I have one on my 650 X2 right now and truthfully, I don't see much of a difference with it. It is a little longer than stock so that would help with porpoising. Most all old school ride plates are 1.5 inches longer anyways. Something to do with the IJSBA rules ofthe day. Now adays the ride plates can be longer per the rule book. I am with WAX, it is over priced and not worht a penny of it. I had a Jet Dynamics plate and top loader on my 650 SX and it was the best. The inventor was on PWCtoday preachign how great they were. Mr Ski was all about them too. I said the JD was the best and they gave me some load of crap about how a top loader slowed a ski down (duh) and a slower ski handled batter. Well that may be the case but I had a modded 750 built to the hilt engine in my 650 SX. Then again I quit riding for about 3 years and when I cam back to it, my newer to me X2 felt like it handled the same as my old modded one. Now that I have more ride time in since buying it, I notice the differences. Mainly in cornering.
 
“noah45”
“If they do what they claim to, why I haven't heard anyone promoting them?”

Since you are posting this question about a Ultra Shredmaster ride plate all over forums, let me spell it out to you.

Noah45, right below the pic you copied off the Shredmaster Ultra webpage states this.

"The Shred Master ride plate is the best aftermarket ride plate our race team has tested on the Ultra 150. It not only increases top speed by over 1 mph, but it also improves handling. We have recommended it to many racers over the past years."
Joe Heim
Kawasaki Jet Ski Race Team Manager

Then a few links to tests done by PWI mags when this magazines were the best>>>
http://shred-master.com/PWI 2001 ULTRA.htm
http://shred-master.com/serv02.htm
http://shred-master.com/prod04.htm
Not only for racing Shredmaster has sold over 2000 Ultra ride plates and only you question a Shredmaster Ultra ride plates ability the way you do. Anyone not to have heard about a Shredmaster ride plate to date you would have to been living on the moon or not involved in the sport over the last 18 years.

“waxhead”
Since you chimed in on another off-subject Shredmaster model I remember you’re post over on PWCTODAY about the Super Jet ride plate that Bob at Shredmaster setup for you to race on and the story. He told you if you ride forward you need to cut the tail to a short tail instead of the long tail Jeff Jacobs won 5 world 4 national and 2 Kings Cups championships on.
And what does the top racer in Australia ride on “waxhead”? Both Jacobs and the Australia champion had no problems and are now champions on Shredmasters, what’s yours? I would say you ride to forward.

“FOX”
“I have one on my 550 and think its mostly junk (for the price)”

And I remember you’re post too over on PWCTODAY. You bought a 15-year-old Shredmaster more than likely worn out V on the ride plate for a cheap price that had been modified by Bob at Shredmaster to fit a Thunder Jet Ski in 1992 and was complaining it did not fit correct and did not know why. This is how you form an opinion riding a Shred Master ride plate not even made for your 550?
Who are you, you show up on PWCTODAY in March of this year and start ragging on everyone with over a 1400 post now and just claim to be 21 years old?

“Dbrutherford”
At the end of your post I think it sounds like you have now found the difference in corning with a Shredmaster X2 ride plate if that is what you said now check out the holeshot and acceleration through the all speed ranges. That’s the problem with no racing now days once you put it on the line you see what works in minutes with the best in the world. I once saw a pro racer with a Shredmaster X2 ride plate on get hit by two racers off the line because he won the first moto and then hammer down and sweep the pack (14 riders) from the outside on the first buoy which put him into second place. Just keep your foot and weight on the tail and it will turn on a dime. Shredmasters aren’t good for riding forward up by the bulkhead or standing straight up and turning it like a truck driver. There made for carving without a Lucy goose tail.
I hate riding any boat with a sloppy tail all over the place even going straight and primitive in the turns if anyone turns anyone.

“Dbrutherford”
“I had a Jet Dynamics plate and top loader on my 650 SX and it was the best.”
Dbrutherford, I remember once a radar test on three Pro ski boats in San Diego’s Mission Bay. Two SX’s and one X2. That Jet Dynamics top loader cost 4.7 mph on all 3 pro boats.

I think this is just more examples of a bunch of keyboard junkies with nothing better to but just ragging on anything they find that day mostly using misinformation.

Perfect example two posters here are ones that know what a Shredmaster can do.

Sorry this had to be my first post on here but I could not believe the BS by a few members here.

Also here is the Vintage release post the other day from Shredmaster

Hello this is Bob Morgan from Shred Master Performance. We are now casting and shipping the Shred Master 650sx for the first time in years and you were on our backorder list. I wanted to contact all on our backorder list before releasing the Shred Master 650sx on message boards tomorrow. Sorry about the long delay although it took about 80 hours to get the 650sx cut down to fit our tooling to cast plus cleanup which could only be done in our spare time. We will only be making and selling the 650sx off-season (September to February) and can only make 1-2 per week due to the still large casting tooling it still takes. This is needed not to slow our production speed down with tooling changes for a short run of ride plates during the main season and with new ride plates being release next year
If you are still interested please contact us back with your city and zip code so we can quote you a total price with S & H.
Bob Morgan Shred Master Performance

SHRED MASTER VINTAGE 650SX ARE BACK
We are now casting and shipping the Shred Master 650sx for the first time in years due to many customer request. Many other Shred Master vintage models some All-In-One piece grate/ride plate are now available to order and being shipped too many we also have not been made for many years.

THE ORIGINAL KAWASAKI 650SX SHRED MASTER RIDE PLATE
All-In-One grate/ride plate is back>>> One piece foiled intake grate, and "V" bottom ride plate on an extended tail. Designed to tremendously enhance the turning and riding capabilities of the 650SX in all water conditions. Eliminates porpoising! Hull pitch angle is controlled by an increasing "V" bottom surface on a long tail ride plate. This maintains the hulls pitch planning angle which allows the hull to ride flatter and more parallel to the water although with the bow still slightly up angled. Advance intake grate hook-up with a very deep and forward extending primary scoop along with a fully foiled patented intake grate design which allows a fluid stream of water to flow directly to the center of the impeller. No square 2 x 4 block of wood design to create water resistance, or trailing edge air traps bleeding air into the pump!

Check Them Out
Bob Morgan Shred Master Performance
www.shred-master.com


650SX >>>>>>>>> http://shred-master.com/prod06.htm

X2 >>>>>>>>>>>> http://shred-master.com/prod09.htm

440-550 JS-SX >> http://shred-master.com/prod07.htm

750SX-SXI >>>>> http://shred-master.com/prod05.htm

Blaster >>>>>>>> http://shred-master.com/prod08.htm

ZXI >>>>>>>>>>> http://shred-master.com/prod03.htm

GP >>>>>>>>>>>> http://shred-master.com/prod02.htm

Ultra 130-150 >>http://shred-master.com/prod01.htm

Starting this fall many of these vintage ride plate models will now only be sold off-season (September to February). This is needed not to slow our production speed down with tooling changes for a short run of ride plates during the main season with new ride plates being release next year

We have now concluded bring all our Vintage ride plate back into production. Next new ride plate will be the Shred Master STX-R / 12-15F and should be in production by the first of the year.

I have been riding these ride plates since they first came out and ride in the surf with some of the Shredmaster guys. Once you learn how they work you never be able to go back.
These Shredmaster guys have nothing to prove it was done years ago on these vintage models and with over 50 world championships shows the results. And if you don’t think racing matters where did you think the design of your PWC came from?
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
D-ace i actually ride off the back
Im not a guy that rides forward at all

the top guys over here on superjets are using r&d plates
Its more about rider preference i think
i just fond that the shredmaster sat up on the v and got to tippy on straights
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
Ride plates are all about personal preference,its not a one size fits all proposition,if it was there would only be one company out there making them,Ocean pro who I believe to have had some of the best ride plates back in the day had several models to choose from for this very reason.
 

Foximus

CFL Cheapass.
Location
Oviedo, Fl
D-ACE... weve had this conversation before.

And now that Ive owned TWO plates.

Ill firmly stick with my desicion and say,
Go to hell.

Feel free to continue with any other personal attacks on moral character while the rest of us feel free to review a ride plate.
 
I can’t believe there are people on here that responded in minutes after my post the other day, talk about people with issues.

Fox, talk about “personal attacks” like “Go to hell.”. Now that response confirms you are only 21 years old. Just a word twisting immature punk with nothing better to do than become a smart-ass keyboard message board junkie. You got problems PAL.

Wax, if you had a straight tracking-line problem it would have been worth it just cutting 2” inches off the tail. And as it says in the Shredmaster instructions if that did not work on straight tracking sand the front part of the “V” softer on the apex to be more forgiving. It would have taken only about 15 minutes. The long tail 100mm length was made for riding flatter in light chop racing on a lake, like the world finals water I did not like it either in the ocean. I don’t know of anyone that used the long tail in the conditions you guys race in down there mostly in the ocean.
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
I can’t believe there are people on here that responded in minutes after my post the other day, talk about people with issues.

Fox, talk about “personal attacks” like “Go to hell.”. Now that response confirms you are only 21 years old. Just a word twisting immature punk with nothing better to do than become a smart-ass keyboard message board junkie. You got problems PAL.

Wax, if you had a straight tracking-line problem it would have been worth it just cutting 2” inches off the tail. And as it says in the Shredmaster instructions if that did not work on straight tracking sand the front part of the “V” softer on the apex to be more forgiving. It would have taken only about 15 minutes. The long tail 100mm length was made for riding flatter in light chop racing on a lake, like the world finals water I did not like it either in the ocean. I don’t know of anyone that used the long tail in the conditions you guys race in down there mostly in the ocean.

The preceding has been a paid for promotional advertisment by Shredmaster,either that or this guy has nothing better to do.:pokey:
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
I am thinking d-ace is actually "shred master"

The funny thing here is that one guy actually milled the v out of the centre of his shredmaster to make it like a normal plate
It made a huge difference to his riding
The ski handles awesome now
 
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