sea doo help

[mike b]

Long shot here but I figured I would try and keep with just this forum and maybe but some off chance someone has the answers. I have a 2000 seadoo GTI 2 stroke. Will not crank over, I pulled the ebox and jumped the starter solenoid but not sure where that leaves me now? Switch? Electronic Key?

Can I jump any wires to help determine and trouble shoot what is it that is not working? Motor spins freely by hand and starter cranks over the motor. Any and all help much appreciated.

 

[Jetfiend]

remove and disgard seapoo engine, replace with Yamaha?

 

[Ducky]

remove and disgard seapoo engine, replace with Yamaha?

Was going to say...light it on fire, and walk away?

 

[OCD Solutions]

Does it beep when you put the key on?

Anything flashing on the display?

 

[Wizards Powersports]

Are you sure the key is programmed? As said above, you should get some beeping regardless. One beep means it sees the key, but the key isn't programmed. Two beeps means the key is programmed. However, the beepers are burned out at least half the time...

Good chance you have a key issue or DESS post issue. Need to know a bit more and we we can narrow it down for you.

 

[mike b]

Are you sure the key is programmed? As said above, you should get some beeping regardless. One beep means it sees the key, but the key isn't programmed. Two beeps means the key is programmed. However, the beepers are burned out at least half the time...

Good chance you have a key issue or DESS post issue. Need to know a bit more and we we can narrow it down for you.

Key doesn't beep at all. However when you look on youtube I do not see all models that beep.

This video has a two beeps.

However this video does not.

 

[Wizards Powersports]

The beepers are shot many times. One beep means the ski sees the key, but it's not programmed. Two beeps and key is programmed. None means you have a bad beeper, possibly bad key, bad DESS post, bad MPEM, bad battery, harness, ground, etc etc.

Wish you were close to our shop, we have a full Can Doo Pro scanner system and could have it figured out in no time. What's your knowledge of this ski?

 

[mike b]

The beepers are shot many times. One beep means the ski sees the key, but it's not programmed. Two beeps and key is programmed. None means you have a bad beeper, possibly bad key, bad DESS post, bad MPEM, bad battery, harness, ground, etc etc.

Wish you were close to our shop, we have a full Can Doo Pro scanner system and could have it figured out in no time. What's your knowledge of this ski?

Just picked it up yesterday. Bought it not running obviously. Sat for two years, fresh water only. Owners didn't know much but SAID it was running, no issues two years back. Motor spins freely by hand and when I jump the relay posts for the starter. I was going to try and connect the beeper to a battery tomorrow to rule out the beeper. Seems weird that the ebox has ground but the rest wouldn't?? Bad beeper/key/post/MPEM/harness all a posibility.

Can I not jump the switch like on a yamaha by a metal clip going into both wires to the switch? Or do something to troubleshoot, or do I need to have it checked with a computer? I didn't want to take it to a shop and I didn't want to start buying one part after the next to just replace till it runs lol. I have seen modules and keys for sale on ebay. Is the key programmed to the module or to the post? I figured the post is just universal and so is the switch and just the module & keys would have to match. Is that correct or not the case here?

 

[Wizards Powersports]

Yes, post and switch are universal. MPEM and key are programmed together. You can test the switch and see if it works with a multimeter, but jumping it won't do any good if the key isn't programmed, because the switch sends a signal to the MPEM which in turn sends it to the solenoid...

 

[john zigler]

You need to test if you are getting power to the start relay.

If you are, then the relay is bad. (not uncommon)

If you are not, it is then a Switch, or more likely as stated the Key, Dess Post, MPEM, etc.

I would say 8 out of 10 Sea-Doo's we see here, the beeper does not work. SO it is hard to go by sound.

You may need to take it to your dealer, or a shop to check it out.

 

[Chris15]

Double check all grounds, my 951 had a lot of ground issues.


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[mike b]

Cut into the wires for the beeper. It works.

When I jump the solenoid it turns the motor over.

Also found a blown fuse at the 5A spot in the module that someone replaced with a 10A. So if that blew then I'm sure it really did some damage. I'm guessing right now its between the post or the module. Maybe both.

Anybody have a module or a module with keys for sale?

 

[mike b]

Also, just checked that spot where the 5A fuse was (I replaced it with a 10A again because all I had to test). Sure enough that fuse is blown again. I have seen this in a discussion before on a different site or just a google answers or where ever that is saying this is most likely caused by a bad module.

 

[OCD Solutions]

Unplug the stator connector at the front of the motor and try another fuse.

 

[SUPERJET-113]

You need 2 beeps when you put the lanyard on or it will not get ignition. Are you getting that?

This question may sound weird, but do you have electric trim on yours, and does it work? I just know that the trim boot on the accuator in the rear gets worn out then water gets into the module and will continuously blow a fuse on the MPEM(cant remember which fuse either). Yours may not even have trim, IDK. But I do know that without 2 beeps your going no where with a DESS system.

 

[mike b]

Unplug the stator connector at the front of the motor and try another fuse.

Tested this earlier. Connected battery, new fuses, and had already disconnected the stator connector. When I plugged them back together the fuse popped immediately.

 

[mike b]

You need 2 beeps when you put the lanyard on or it will not get ignition. Are you getting that?

This question may sound weird, but do you have electric trim on yours, and does it work? I just know that the trim boot on the accuator in the rear gets worn out then water gets into the module and will continuously blow a fuse on the MPEM(cant remember which fuse either). Yours may not even have trim, IDK. But I do know that without 2 beeps your going no where with a DESS system.

No I haven't heard any beeps except for when I connected the beeper straight to the battery.

I even had new fuses in the boat and disconnected the stator connector like mentioned above. I left them disconnected so it would not blow the fuse and still no beep. If the issue was the stator/magneto should this connection still cause me not to get a beep? Or totally irrelevant? I was figuring that it only has to deal with spark so I should still get a beep and maybe it to crank meaning the module was good, but got nothing. So is this saying module and maybe the stator? Or just saying that something unplugged will not allow for the ski to beep? I wish there was someone nearby with the same ski that I could test out a few things to see what stuff is different when testing them back to back

 

[mike b]

Okay I swapped out modules and got a key programmed. Ski now makes two beeps. However does not click over. I went to the rear electrical box and checked the fuse, was older and dirty so I installed a fresh 15amp. The ski would not make a beep now, but switching back to the original it did. Sounds like there is something fishy going on here. I am going to clean out the rear electrical box and the connectors and see if any progress.

Any other ideas?

Also, does anybody have a link to a seadoo manual to look up the specs sheet so i can test continuity on the switch and the harness and further if needed?

 

[SUPERJET-113]

You saying it does not turn over at all after you put the lanyard on and get 2 beeps? If does not turn over, have you manually test the starter solenoid in the rear box?

 

[mike b]

Switched out rear box and solenoid with a buddies spare parts. Turns over but no spark. Looks to have a bad stator on top of it all