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IceRocket1286

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Well, what do they do? i really dont know to be honest. Im writing a paper for school on motors and emissions, 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke, etc. Its loosely based on PWC's, but ties in dirt bikes, automobile engines, and other platforms.

If anyone has any websites, advice, or anything regarding making 2 strokes more 'fuel efficient' share your thoughts, It would greatly help me out. ANY info is appreciated, as this is also a learning curve for me as well.

thanks guys!
 

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Powervalves make for adjustable exhaust ports.
As you may know, exhaust port size, shape, and height play a very important role in power overall, and where that power sits in the RPM range.
You have low, wide exhaust ports for lots of low-end grunt.
You have high, wide exhaust ports for good mid- to top-end power.

A power valve allows you to have both - at low RPM, the valve is down, limiting the port height.
At high RPM's, the valve is actuated, raises itself, and thus raises the exhaust port roof itself.
 
Your asking a very technical question that only a few here will be able to answer. Power valves do help with emissions, but since your asking if they do, you need to do alot of reading on how a two stroke actually works. Are you an engineering student? Here's a book that will explain a great deal of emissions theory but it heavy reading and hope you like math. The Two-Stroke Cycle Engine : Its Development, Operation, and Design. Its an SAE publication. You could do an SAE search. Try searching "Evenrude E-Tec" on the web, Honda had a low emission Baja race bike a few years back, it actually ran off of detonation for some of its rpm band. Yes, the most resent two strokes are actually cleaner than the fours but you can't argue that with someone who doesn't technically how an engine works.
 
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IceRocket1286 said:
come on, I know you guys have more than that

geez! did you go to the edwin school of gratefulness??

i think that "thanks matt! now i know what powervalves do! anyone have anything else they can add as well?" wouldve sufficed.:rolleyes:
 

njfl

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In general, on either 4-strokes or 2-strokes, anything that can be done to make the "pump" (engine) have adjustable parameters will help optimize performance (and often emissions) for particular rpms.

My background is in 4-strokes, but there are a lot of analogies betweeen 4's and 2's as it all goes to the fundamentals of the engine being a pump.

Hot-Rodders in the 70's used Rhodes Lifters. These were bleed-down hydraulic lifters that provided variable lift, less at lower rpms and more at higher rpms. This was mostly used as a patch for people who made a poor choice in selecting a cam (they selected too big of one that made the engine run terrible at low speed and threw these in to try to compensate, been there myself).

Honda had the V-Tec (sp?) variable valvetrain in the 80's. That also provided variable flow at different rpms. Search the Internet for details on that.

A really cool, but slightly different concept, though worth mentioning, is Cadillac's 1980/81 8/6/4, which never really took off, but just resurfaced in a car last year. Concept is that 8 cylinders get you to highway spoeed, then once the inertia is overcome, it reduces to 6, then 4 cylinders at cruising speed to reduce the fuel usage and emmisions output.

The port timing that you machine your ports to in a two-stroke is analogous to cam selection in a four-stroke. Problem is, to change port timing, you have to machine the cylinder.

One way of adding variablility to the two-stroke "pump" is through these valves.

As an all-encompassing statement for your report, you might state something to the effect that traditional engines (2 and 4) have fixed parameters (lift/duration/port timing/runner volume). As such, they are optimized for operation (power and emmissions) only over small rpm bands. Anything that can be done to make these parameters variable can increase the optimum rpm band.

Also on the topic of emissions, horsepower has also been directly related to emissions. More horsepower came at the expense of worse emissions. If you recall (or in your case, look in the history books:)) the dreadful 70's, automakers fought the increasing prices of gas and the economical Japanese cars by simply taking our big cars and reducing the horsepower output, thereby reducing emissions.

You might consider doing a short study of the Corvette engine specs over the period 1965 (or so) to present. The small block Chevy has been virtually the same, yet the changes in it's power and emissions output are remarkable. The ways that they achieved it are also remarkable.

Most people bawk at computers in engines. They are the single most important item that have led us to extract the maximum potential out of an engine by providing feedback from all points of the engine back to the central computer to allow it to make a decision to adjust parameters.

OK getting a little off-topic her, but this is fun. I wish I did a report like this in school.

Good luck.
 
It's tough to answer a question when the question has so much to answer. Yes a power valves main goal was to give torque range but it also has an effect on emissions. Now days when you speak of 2 v 4 strokes all the average person knows is "oh those 2 strokes pollute". Even if you give a qualified answer it doesn't matter, it goes right over their head. The original question was about pv and emissions. Well yes it does help with emissions. Yes the Corvette small block is a work of art in power and effeciency. How it gets its gas milage and emissions is an achievement, ok combustion chamber design, flame probogation, swirl, tumble, valve timing controled by a computer. Its not a simple valve move up, valve move down answer. Even when most people talk about porting only a few on this and other boards have real understanding of the varibles involved. Its like when I was in high school and the motor heads would talk of 3/4 cam. 3/4 what? Lift? They put cams in their engines and didn't even know why. Yes the engines ran but could have been better. So if your going to give a report on 2 v 4 strokes make sure that the 2's come out ahead. Enough ranting.
 
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